Also admitting that there never was a “civil war in Iraq” and that they should be ashamed of themselves for ever spouting that lie…beating that drum….emboldening the enemy.

They want “fairness”? They have a lot of “reparations” to undertake. Until then reap what you’ve sown.

And quit yer bitchin’!

At one time….up to and including “The Clinton Era”….my sense of “fair play” included politics. Then the “Bush stole the election” lies started and that was the beginning of the end of me giving a shit about being “fair” to libtards. BTW…they still bitterly cling to that lie even though it was proven time and time again that Bush, by all standards, won Florida and thus the 2000 Presidential Election. Just ask ‘em…they still get fired up about it. No amount of proof can convince them. That’s what they consider “being fair”. Fuck ‘em.

You would think that Dubya winning so handily in 2004 might have shut them up about that but….we have to keep in mind who we’re talkin’ about here. I still haven’t received a good answer from a dim about what went wrong in 2004 but I never tire of asking the question!

They are the most unfair group of people I can think of. Double-standards, changing rules to suit their agenda, hypocritical finger-pointing…none of these things bother a lib as long as it’s biased in their favor.

So RD, I thought that video was perfect and the point it made was valid. This Prez. has been pissing all over their mission (and morale) for many years now and he’s damn lucky he didn’t get “booooo”d.

As for the hens clucking about the circumstances and particulars of those two videos and the “fairness” of their comparison….I couldn’t care less and you can all kiss my rebel ass.

You set the bar. Quit yer bitchin’.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw

I only recently (last night) viewed this video or even knew about it. It quite literally brought tears to my eyes and laughter at the same time (Bush’s visit compared to Obama’s).

I was medically retired under honorable conditions after a year and a half tour over to Iraq with the 101st. I hold the up-most respect, love, and honor for our brothers and sisters still serving this country. The left wing flamers and trolls who have “tried” to derail this are despicable people and quite obviously take a lot in this country for grant it (i.e. freedom).

So I thank you and quite honestly am glad a friend of mine told me about this website. I look forward to being enlightened by “real” news and embraced by like minded people.

To all my brothers and sisters out there who have/are served/serving my heart goes with you and above that keep your head down and be safe.

No you’re not.

“It’s obvious that you posted this video and aren’t going to man up to the original point of doing so.”

The intent is made clear in my comments in the post above. That you can’t understand plain English is your problem, not mine.

“My point is simple: if soldiers are unable to display loyalty to their commander in chief, they are unfit for duty.”

Are you really this thick? They didn’t do one damned thing in the video that is inappropriate. The point of the video is to show the difference in reactions to different presidents.

“Their duty is to obey and execute. Period.”

Yeah, I know. I served a lot of years and I sure as hell never said one damned thing in contradiction with that. You really need to do something about these delusions.

If you want to go set up straw men and them knock them down, go do it somewhere else. You are getting boring.

It’s obvious that you posted this video and aren’t going to man up to the original point of doing so. You acknowledge that the settings of the two scenarios are entirely differents, so the point is moot to begin with. My point is simple: if soldiers are unable to display loyalty to their commander in chief, they are unfit for duty. Their duty is to obey and execute. Period. We don’t give a damn what party they’re registered with. And if you have a problem with that, stop running around the Internet bragging about your military service. If your service in the armed forces was intended only to support those presidents with whom your political views were aligned and you could care less about the millions of citizens who voted for Democratic presidents, the country doesn’t owe you jack squat. This is the price to be paid by politicizing the military, as you are doing. Shame on you.

Wrong. I never, ever said that the Marines in the video were disrespectful of Obama. They most certainly were not. They did demonstrate a sincere affection for President Bush that they clearly don’t feel for Obama. As I stated in the accompanying text, they loved Bush in a way that they do not Obama.

“If you can’t see the difference between rhetorical attacks against the president from those individuals versus rhetorical attacks from current soldiers of our armed forces who are under the strict chain of command established by Section 2, Article II of the Constitution, I can’t help you.”

If you look at that video and you see “rhetorical attacks from current soldiers of our armed forces” you are hallucinating.

“Your video is all about advocating that soldiers in our armed forces disrespect the president. That’s what you’re arguing for. That’s what you’re hoping for.”

My video is about showing the different reaction of Marines to a president they love vs a president they simply tolerate. Nothing more, nothing less…

“If you can’t respect the commander in chief your Constitution and the people you serve have put into office, you are nothing less than an unfaithful traitor in my eyes.”

While I served 14 years as an infantryman, I ain’t one anymore pal. Obama isn’t my commander-in-chief and he never was. Again, nobody in that video disrespected him. They showed a “tepid response” that was telling when juxtaposed with the response given President Bush. No Marine did one damned thing that was wrong or inappropriate, however.

Furthermore, it sure is interesting how the left suddenly sees disrespect for the office of the president to be improper. This belief seems to have developed from nowhere on about January 20th of this year.

“We don’t give you the privilege of serving in the armed forces to mouth off your “opinions”. “

Again, you are delusional. Nobody mouthed off or even gave an opinion to or about Obama in the video.

Semper fi, eh? When you’ve translated that to English and actually understand the meaning of the phrase, let me know.

“Semper fidelis” means always faithful and, as it is used by the Marine Corps, it signifies the dedication and loyalty that individual Marines have for “Corps and Country”, even after leaving service. It doesn’t have dick to do with respect for Barack Obama personally.

It’s interesting that you posted this video to illustrate a point, and are now backing away from it when confronted with the truth of how our constitutional republic functions. You posted the video to demonstrate the lack of respect Marines have for our current president compared to our previous one. That is clearly and undeniably your point. Too bad you’re not man enough to stand up for it now: Your rebuttal to my attacking that argument, as every patriotic American should, is to post some quotes from philosophers, political rivals and journalists criticizing the executive. You even laughably cite one presidential candidate criticizing the then-president as an example, as though that’s never happened before. If you can’t see the difference between rhetorical attacks against the president from those individuals versus rhetorical attacks from current soldiers of our armed forces who are under the strict chain of command established by Section 2, Article II of the Constitution, I can’t help you.

I consider myself well-versed in the Constitution and unlike you I don’t pick and choose which aspects of it are worthy of respect. The 1st Amendment not only protects our right to severely criticize and question the actions of our president, but I have always argued that it mandates our obligation to do so, which is what makes our democracy vibrant. This isn’t about freedom of speech because I don’t question anyone’s ability to criticize the government and never have. This is about soldiers who have a sworn duty to uphold the Constitution and obey the chain of command exhibiting disrespect for those institutions. Your video is all about advocating that soldiers in our armed forces disrespect the president. That’s what you’re arguing for. That’s what you’re hoping for. That’s what you so fervently wish to be true (even though it may not be).

If you can’t respect the commander in chief your Constitution and the people you serve have put into office, you are nothing less than an unfaithful traitor in my eyes. Your job (and I don’t mean you specifically, since I assume you are no longer a Marine) is to serve faithfully. We don’t give you the privilege of serving in the armed forces to mouth off your “opinions”. There are others who play that role more than adequately in our society and government. Semper fi, eh? When you’ve translated that to English and actually understand the meaning of the phrase, let me know.

Secondly, disrespecting the president is absolutely nothing like disrespecting the American people and disrespect of the Constitution of the United States. American history is rich with disrespect of the president back to the very first president. Frankly, to argue that the president must be shown respect reserved for the Constitution is to make a God damned mockery of the democratic republic.

For example, Thomas Paine, in a letter to George Washington wrote, “… and to you, sir, treacherous in private friendship … and a hypocrite in public life, the world will be puzzled to decide whether you are an apostate or an impostor, whether you have abandoned good principles or whether you ever had any.”

Alexander Hamilton said of Thomas Jefferson, “The moral character of Jefferson was repulsive. Continually puling about liberty, equality, and the degrading curse of slavery, he brought his own children to the hammer, and made money of his debaucheries.”

Harper’s Weekly described Abraham Lincoln thus: “Filthy Story-Teller, Despot, Liar, Thief, Braggart, Buffoon, Usurper, Monster, Ignoramus Abe, Old Scoundrel, Perjurer, Robher, Swindler, Tyrant, Field-Butcher, Land-Pirate.”

I won’t even begin to try to document the insults and disrespect Obama himself heaped upon George Bush when he was in the office of president.

Your insistence that the president be demurred to as if he were a monarch undermines everything the Founders stood for and actually, really is un-American.

Now run along. This blog is for grown-ups.

Obama is pro-infanticide. Amazing that a President of the United Staes of America can be against water-boarding, but for sucking brains out of babies heads while they are alive, and chopping babies up in a womb, and and if an abortion is botched, and the baby is born alive, Chairman Obama is for letting this baby die; lay in a closet and die.
That’s wicked.

He is a very bad Commander-in-Chief, and a worse President. Yet I will pray for him, and respect the office, but not the man’s ideals.

I appreciate all the military. In 1971 when President Nixon called for a draft, the ping pong ball that first came out was March 6th, my B-Day. I was on my way, but Nixon later called the draft off, and so i settled down here in the States, and appreciated how the armed forces protected us.

If an all out war with North Korea happens, then we will see who the “Patrick Henrys” are.

Patrick Henry:
“Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”