Debate Reaction

I think McCain clearly won.  On the other hand, I can’t think like an Obamoron so it is possible, nay probable, that they think he won.  Some are saying that since McCain couldn’t embarrass Obama on foreign policy issues, it is effectively an Obama victory.  Maybe, but if that is true the same situation should apply in reverse.  Obama has the advantage on the tanking economy and, during the first half of the debate, he couldn’t lay a glove on McCain.

Ultimately, I don’t think that McCain did enough to cause a change in the campaign.  I will be surprised to see much change in the polls.  On the other hand, I cannot believe that people see Obama as presidential on the same stage as McCain.  How can that be.

Obama pissed me off enough to shout at the television twice.  The first time was wen he said his initial reaction to the Russian invasion of Georgia was to condemn Russia.  This came after McCain described Obama’s initial reaction exactly.  Obama’s denial that he called for “both nations to show restraint” and instead that he condemned Russia is a blatant lie.   This man has no problem lying about what we all saw and heard personally.  Here is Obama tonight…

Obviously, I disagree with this notion that somehow we did not forcefully object to Russians going into Georgia.

I immediately said that this was illegal and objectionable. And, absolutely, I wanted a cessation of the violence, because it put an enormous strain on Georgia, and that’s why I was the first to say that we have to rebuild the Georgian economy and called for a billion dollars that has now gone in to help them rebuild.

That is a lie. Here is Obama’s initial statement on the Russian invasion of Georgia.

“I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected. All sides should enter into direct talks on behalf of stability in Georgia, and the United States, the United Nations Security Council, and the international community should fully support a peaceful resolution to this crisis.”

Both sides, he said, must show restraint.  There is no condemnation of Russia there.  Also notice he believed the same United Nations Security Council in which Russia has veto power was going to support a just resolution. What a dufus.

The second time I got pissed was when Barry told another whopper.  He explicitly said that he did not previously say he would meet face-to-face with leaders of rouge states.  He most certainly did say he would an his claim to the contrary is an out-and-out lie.

Here is Obama tonight:

Look, I mean, Senator McCain keeps on using this example that suddenly the president would just meet with somebody without doing any preparation, without having low-level talks. Nobody’s been talking about that, and Senator McCain knows it. This is a mischaracterization of my position.

That is a lie, it is no mischaracterization. In case you doubt it, here is the tape.

I am quite certain that others will report on many more easily demonstrated lies by Barry throughout. More on this later….

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6 Responses to Debate Reaction

  1. Jim says:

    It’s funny, my initial reaction to the debate was that Obama did fairly well, with McCain having a decent but not great performance. That is until I went back and read the transcripts and the way they read clearly shows that McCain’s responses were far more thoughtful and thorough than anything offered by Obama. I suppose you could say that the difference between them was the difference between style and substance. Obama’s got lots of the former and little of the latter.

  2. Rob says:

    I think that if you are easily mesmerized by shiny objects you would more than likely think that Obama won this debate.

    Jim, your comment reminds me of the overhyped Obama speech in the stadium at the Dem convention: people who watched it felt that he was the second coming of Christ/JFK but those of us who just *read* it saw that it was just the same boilerplate Dem speech again. He just speaks well and his myrmidons eat it up.

    When this campaign started I was less supporting McCain than opposing Obama, but as time has gone by I like the man that is John McCain more and more. He is a man’s man, with huge does of honor and respect.

  3. McLaren says:

    It’s disturbing enough that Obama can’t stick to a position longer than until the next question.

    But that answer is so much more frightening than I ever recalled before. This guy is beyond naive. And listen to that crap about Iran and Syria in relation to “if Iraq collapses.”

    What a colossal boob.

  4. Jim says:

    Rob, the other odd thing about the debate is that McCain really didn’t expose Obama in the way I thought he could have and should have. There were a number of things Obama stated that were simply wrong, or poorly glossed over particularly with regards to the economy that McCain could have nailed him on. Hopefully, in the next debate(s) McCain can expose Obama as the dangerously inexperienced far left winger that he is. Of course, if the MSM hadn’t abdicated their responsiblity in vetting Obama, the egg shell thin veneer of a ‘moderate’ would have been shattered long ago.

    I also agree with your other point, I’m becoming more and more comfortable with the idea of a John McCain presidency. He’s the right man for what this nation needs right now.

  5. MadBrad says:

    Has anyone ever heard the expression typically applied to the situation (such as on Saturday Night Live) when a comedian delivers a joke that flops “If you have to explain the joke, then it obviously isn’t funny”?

    I’m applying that to this debate. If you have to go back and read the transcript to see who won, then obviously it was a horrible debate. The fact that McCain won on points and merit, but that is most determinable by reading the transcript means that McCain didn’t sell it effectively.

    When you fail to achieve your objective you cannot count that as a Victory. McCain could have and should have squashed Obama like a bug, but he didn’t. There is no excuse other than McCain INTENDED to leave without being the decisive winner.

    I DID notice how McCain was patronizing Bill Clinton without drawing attention to the Fannie/Freddie disaster set in motion during the Clinton Administration. Why was that? Do you think there could be a back door agreement between McCain & Clinton “Don’t make me look silly and I’ll help you beat Obama”?

  6. McLaren says:

    That wouldn’t shock me in the slightest, Brad.