“Stepping On Your Dick,” Part Deux

Regarding the “wiretapping” claim from Trump, it’s been one long, long train of perpetual dick-stepping. Dick-stepping all the way down:

Testifying in front of Congress this morning, FBI Director James Comey said he has seen no evidence to support President Trump’s accusation, first leveled weeks ago on Twitter, that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower during the 2016 general election: “We don’t have any information that supports those tweets,” he declared flatly.

By refusing, over and over again, to back down from Trump’s original, farfetched charge, his administration has inflicted a lot of completely unnecessary damage upon itself, and even upon the so-called special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom.

As if the initial, unsupported claim wasn’t bad enough, the administration spring-boarded off some random shit Andrew Napolitano said. When Trump’s claims were denied by our folks here at home, Napolitano claimed that Obama used British Intelligence to spy on Trump. This was verified by no one, and refuted by the Brits, but our admin ran with it like it was the gospel.

So now, in a completely unforced error, the Trump admin has smeared the Brits to protect his own narrative.

Maybe during his decades as a star of the New York tabloids, Trump came to believe that he could get out of trouble by making outrageous counter-accusations against his tormentors. Maybe in that realm, his belief was well founded. But the rules are different when you’re president.

Frankly, it was ALL unforced errors:
If it didn’t happen, Trump shouldn’t have accused Obama of doing it.
If it did happen, Trump should have presented evidence immediately.
If Napolitano was wrong, they should have let him twist on his own.
If Napolitano was right, they should have verified his info and possibly presented that.

Literally the only thing “productive” accomplished here was Trump and that issue dominating the news cycle for this period of time. And all he had to do was to incinerate his credibility and a percentage of his and our relationship with our oldest ally to do that.

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39 Responses to “Stepping On Your Dick,” Part Deux

  1. R.D. Walker says:

    I think that without his father’s money and contacts, today Don would be a retired Burger King franchisee from Queens living at the over 55 retirement community “The Villas at Mel-A-Noma” in Boca Whocares, Florida. He would be known for dressing in matching white shoes and belts and wearing tropical shirts in colors only bees can see. He’d spend his days unsuccessfully putting the moves on the chubby high school girls who work the Bingo Parlor in the dying strip mall across the Tamiami Trail.

    • Uke says:

      Yeah, but you should see his High School letter jacket. He can still kinda fit in it, too.

    • MadBrad says:

      Yes, I see your recent visit has impacted you deeply.

    • miforest says:

      R. D. thanks for keeping us up to date on this , but you need to take time to work on assimilating these guys.
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4329962/Teens-raped-girl-14-school-recently-immigrated.html They are here illegally , but we all know that’s not an issue.

      • R.D. Walker says:

        The actor who played Eddie Haskell on Leave it to Beaver was named Ken Osmond.

        I think that pretty much clinches me as the winner in your little non sequitur contest.

      • Uke says:

        1) At least the 18 year old wasn’t here legally. Pretty hard to properly assimilate someone if they go around our system.

        2) Even if they were legal and went through our system properly, you can find degenerates in every culture. Including ours (i.e. our very own citizens).

        3) Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal, and does not disprove the fact that we have had a historically amazing record at properly assimilating our immigrants.

        4) You are WAY off topic. Post this in off topic next time.

        • miforest says:

          if the topic is misbehavior by a republican politician , how about this one? http://kfor.com/2017/03/15/ralph-shortey-suspended-from-senate-activities-police-report-released-of-motel-incident-with-teenage-boy/
          seems more serious.

          • Uke says:

            Swing and a miss.

            You DO know what “off topic” means, compared to “on topic,” right?

            The indiscretions of all other politicians does not fall under the purview of this topic here.

            If you have something to say about THIS issue, about Trump’s deal with his wiretapping claim or some such, post it here. Otherwise you just come off like you’re trying to distract from THIS issue.

          • notamobster says:

            What the hell do immigrant & senatorial rapists have to do with Trump pulling out his dick & jumping up and down on it?

            Do you really not understand the difference, out are you just deflecting? (Pro tip: we have a pretty sharp crowd here, who won’t likely be horn-swaggled by your tactics.)

            FF to 2:03


            • miforest says:

              It is all more relevant than a bunch of off the cuff tweets.

              translation: ” who won’t likely be horn-swaggled by your tactics” = we cannot address the arguments , so we will deflect.

              • miforest says:

                also welcome back to MI. register your pistols, we still got that, and it’s an easy thing to forget in the hassle of moving .

              • Uke says:

                You are literally the one deflecting from the topic at hand. You are literally the one not addressing the actual topic.

                You accusing others of that after you yourself dump irrelevant and immaterial stories in the thread is, frankly, laughable.

                You’ve been warned.

                1) Get on topic and discuss the issue,
                2) Get to the off topic thread, or
                3) Stop posting in this thread.

  2. R.D. Walker says:

    So here is my theory…

    The spooks were surveilling Russian diplomats. The government spies were tapping the Russians’ wires legally and appropriately. Some of the Team Trump players spoke to the Ruskis and, in the process, tapped into Ivan’s tapped wires.

    Trump got just enough information to conclude that somebody in government was tapping wires his team was using and, without doing any kind of due diligence, went to Tweeter and started Twitting.

    Then, later, he discovered that his team wasn’t the target of the tapping but basically tapped into the legitimate tap voluntarily.

    This puts Trump in a bad position because, 1) His wires weren’t tapped, his boys called tapped wires, 2) it raises questions about why his folks were chatting with Russians and 3) puts him in a position of needing to say, “Oops, my bad”.

    Trump doesn’t like 1, 2 or 3 so he is spinning in place.

  3. R.D. Walker says:

    The public and high profile accusation against the security apparatus of our closest ally the United Kingdom is a whole other level of tallywacker trodding. I am thinking Brits are contemplating just how comparatively minor an insult the removal of Churchill’s bust from the Oval Office really was.

  4. MadBrad says:

    Y’all need to calm down and listen to what Alex Jones has to say about all this.


    • R.D. Walker says:

      “…listen to what Alex Jones has to say about all this.”

      That the Bilderberg Group, Club of Rome, Council on Foreign Relations, Rhodes Trust, Skull and Bones, Shriners, Trilateral Commission, Reptilians and Illuminati set him up?

  5. MadBrad says:

    I’m the silly Redneck who falls back on the simple logic that nobody talks this much shit unless there’s something, somewhere to back it up. They’re still talking shit mind you. I recall the Brits debating whether or not to allow President Trump into their Country so fuck their feelings actually. They’ve been showing their asses plenty.

    Still, with all the shit talking it is expected, in fact it is standard protocol to play your cards or fold when somebody calls your Bluff. They are still running their Bluff, last time I checked. Standard protocol is not being followed. I know, shocking.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      I dunno man. It is starting to seem like the flop, turn, and river have been shown, all bets have been placed and the showdown is all but finished. It’s time to show the hole cards or fold.

    • notamobster says:

      The glorious aspect for dear leader is that he won’t lose a single person’s support over this or anything else. That dude is bullet proof with his crowd.

      Not a single one cares about something like this.

      • Ray Davies says:

        Like I keep saying, The US can survive any president for 4-8 years. We might not like it, but we have to get used to it. Trump won, now I have better things to do than worry about it.

  6. mr_bill says:

    The FBI says it doesn’t have any evidence of tapping Trump. That doesn’t mean that another organization didn’t tap him. Heck, it doesn’t even mean the FBI didn’t tap him. It just means they don’t have any evidence of it. But that’s the rub: no evidence may as well mean it didn’t happen, even if it did. Politicians are so slimy, you could catch one with his pants literally down, getting a hummer in the Oral Office and he would still pretend it didn’t happen by re-defining the word “is.”

    That’s the whole reason the Trump tapping story gained any traction in the first place: nerobama has no reservations about abusing the power of office to get “revenge” on his “enemies” and shrillary would stoop to any level to gain office.

    But, again we’ve been presented zero evidence Trump was tapped. That hasn’t stopped lots of Republicans from repeating the claim and defending it. There’s also zero evidence that the Trump campaign was doing the bidding of the Russians or vice versa, but the democrats can’t stop masturbating to the story. So there they are: the two biggest partisan news stories of the last few cycles and there isn’t a scintilla of objective evidence that backs up either one. In other words, they both have precisely the same evidence as this week’s Loch Ness Monster sighting.

    On the other hand, there is evidence that the Clinton campaign colluded with the DNC to force Bernie Sanders out of the race. There is evidence that the DNC conspired with the Clinton campaign and several “news” outlets to defraud the presidential debates and privilege Hillary. Nobody is talking about either of these stories which are backed up by a metaphorical steaming shitpile of evidence. Why is that?

  7. miforest says:

    I was watching the presidential debate with a friend . He remarked how well Clinton was doing and how trump stumbled occasionally. I told him that the Clinton performance was too good, and that clearly she had to have the questions in advance.

    this led to discussion of paranoia and foolishness to even think that ” Alex jones” kind of thing could have happened .

    Then everyone respected and trusted laughed at the idea.

    Then the obvious was proven correct.

    but no matter how apparent the Washington established bureaucracy war with trump is or how Blatantly bias and unprecedentedly hostile the mainstream media is , certain people want to have a conniption over every “Shocking revalation ! ”

    The possibility of some sort of nixonesque work by Obama or Clinton or the DNC or any of a range of opponents is certainly possible. There are 17 or 18 or 19 federal agencies that have that kind of ability. certainly nothing comey said would indicate that a thorough investigation had been done. at best His remarks can be summarized as ” well , I don’t know of anything, and I’ve asked my buddies at Justice and they say we haven’t looked into it too much, but we don’t know of anything either.” at this point in time. that we’ll admit. that anyone can prove. Look ! Squrrel!

    now, I have to leave the blog for a while and feed my Nessie(in the pool) and take my sasquatch for a walk.

    • mr_bill says:

      By all means, let’s talk about how corrupt Clinton and the DNC are. They’re corrupt as can be. I doubt anybody here will attempt to refute that because we’ve all seen copious evidence to support that. What I haven’t seen is a dime’s worth of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. I haven’t seen a dime’s worth of evidence that the obama administration tapped Trump. It may have happened. It just as easily may not have happened. Clinton and obama are both morally bankrupt and it’s not hard to imagine them doing this. But until there’s some credible evidence, that’s all it is: imagination. There’s also a logical inconsistency in it. No evidence of Trump being tapped is okay, the accusation is enough because there’s some plausibility behind it. Yet, no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians means that he absolutely, positively didn’t do it.

      Alex Jones is a punch line because he’s been wrong a lot more than he’s been right. He speculated on something that eventually panned out. Given the sheer volume of speculations he puts out, it’s hardly a surprise one turned out. I bet a couple of Miss Cleo’s “predictions” were right, as well. That doesn’t make her a legit psychic any more than one right guess from Alex makes him a political soothsayer.

      • R.D. Walker says:

        “There’s also a logical inconsistency in it.”

        Here is another: According to the Administration, virtually everything the media says is “fake news”. But when Fox News talking head Andrew Napolitano speculates that the British might have helped Obama skirt the law and surveille Trump, the White House repeats it like it is Gospel.

  8. Joe says:

    I think British and US relations are just fine. Where is the Churchill bust again?

    The only ones I see worked up over this are McCain, Graham, and the Democrats.

    • Uke says:

      If you think only those parties are worked up, then you’re not paying attention.

      Also, the fact that British-US relations are “fine” is not reflective of how what Trump did is fine and no big deal, but rather a reflection of the durability of our relationship. May as well say that drinking radiator fluid is “fine” just because you can survive drinking one teaspoon.

      I mean, you didn’t expect the Brits to pull their ambassador and declare war on us, right? That wasn’t on the table. But that still doesn’t mean what Trump did is okay or that there was no harm to it.

      • Joe says:

        I predict there are no implications. Political ideologues on both side of the pond are feigning outrage. Proof from the Russian collusion doesn’t have to exist but the same individuals are okay with that.

        I wonder what the next contrived crisis will be?

        • Uke says:

          You are acting like Trump’s action was acceptable as long as Britain doesn’t start bombing us. Why?

          Again, a teaspoon of radiator fluid… how many can you survive? Would you like to test that out?

          An adult can survive drinking up to 2 oz of antifreeze, but why drink even a single drop?

          It was an unforced error that accomplished nothing significant, but possibly harmed the relationship between our two heads of state. No upsides, all downsides.

    • Joe says:

      In my opinion, Rush is right. During the last 8 years many of these same enraged politicians didn’t get this worked up, scandal after scandal. Now suddenly the theater. The effort continues to be with a goal of delegitimization. The counter to their campaign are the rallies and the tweets. Trump is bypassing traditional sources and continues to find direct support in the constituency of those misguided congressmen. That’s what makes them nervous, the direct messaging.

  9. R.D. Walker says:

    Fox pulls Napolitano?

    Fox News has reportedly pulled Andrew Napolitano from the air indefinitely after he made claims that a British intelligence agency had wiretapped Trump Tower.

    Napolitano, a Fox News analyst, is not scheduled to appear on the network in the near future, the Los Angeles Times reported, according to people familiar with the situation.

    Last week, Napolitano made the claims about the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) spying on Trump at former President Barack Obama’s behest.

    White House press secretary Sean Spicer then quoted Napolitano’s remarks while defending the president’s claims earlier this month that the former president had wiretapped Trump Tower before the election.