If true, this can’t be good…

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  1. R.D. Walker says:

  2. R.D. Walker says:

    Nothing like sitting around bullshitting with the Russian foreign minister about the awesome intel you’re getting. Good times.

    I have no idea if any of this is true, but I can imagine how it would go if it is…

      “I have the best intel. Massive amounts, the best intelligence, nobody knows the magnificent intel I get. Everybody on the NSC says it’s first class stuff. Top shelf. Really.”

      “Da? Like what tovarich?”

      “Well, for example….”

    • Uke says:

      That was my thought, too.

      Trump, I think we’re quite aware by now, has somewhat a fragile ego. That manifests in him defensively lashing out at virtually every criticism, as well as proactive puffery.

      I can definitely see it happening that way. Whether it did or not is a different matter.

  3. notamobster says:

    The president has broad authority to declassify government secrets, so even if it’s true, he never broke the law.

    Since it’s just Trump being a dumbass, by running off at the mouth, no one should be surprised.

    That entire article is full of innuendos, hearsay, and reaching. It reads like a second rate click-bait blog post.

    They begin with the statement that he revealed Intel and then went on to say that some folks who weren’t there, said so. Really shitty writing.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      “The president has broad authority to declassify government secrets, so even if it’s true, he never broke the law.”

      There must be limits to that. I mean, what if a president sent an enemy information for the purpose of destroying the US Pacific Fleet? Could he say that he declassified that info? Maybe but the act of declassifying it would be treason, right?

      • notamobster says:

        In that case, it would be treason. This is a case of the dumbass, at its most nefarious. World’s apart.

        This is also an uneasy ally in the fight against ISIS… Though our enemy in the regime change game. See? This is why we should stay out of regime change and foreign adventurism, to keep the president from being a dumbass. 🙂

        • R.D. Walker says:

          World’s apart for sure but I just wanted to point out that there is a limit to the president’s power to declassify.

          I doubt this crosses that line… if it even happened at all.

        • fasttimes says:

          I have found most “bombshell” trump stories lately to be as you described above, Nota. This one no different, but I agree with y’all that it is believable. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t.

          Who knows anymore. We are living in another freaking dark age.

  4. DMc says:

    LTG McMaster called the story BS…looks like someone is going to have to review the tape!

    • NavyNavy says:

      As soon as I see the byline is from the Washington Post I basically see the story as complete BS… if I even bother to read it.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      McMaster: “At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed, and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known.”

      Yep, although that statement seems to be very carefully worded, doesn’t it? I mean it doesn’t come right out and say no classified information was revealed.

      The Russian Foreign Ministry denies Trump revealed anything, for what it’s worth.

  5. Cold Warrior says:

    These are #FakeAmerican #FakeReporter shillings of #FakeNews.
    Remedy?
    Attack.
    Have you ever seen where, for example, Tom Friedman lives?

    Don’t want to become a precinct committeeman?

    Then, use your time and internet skills to build an Order of Battle of these enemies. And they are our enemies.

    Names. Titles. Histories. Residences. And, most of all: family connections and interconnections. A little bit has been done. Go full-blown with it.

    Here’s Friedman’s carbon footprint:

    https://wonkette.com/413811/this-is-literally-thomas-friedmans-house

    Thank you.

    CW

  6. MadBrad says:

    “I was in the room. It didn’t happen. The story is false’.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-39930733/us-national-security-advisor-i-was-in-room-it-didnt-happen

    Thank you BBC for bringing us this story.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      Here is the problem with what McMaster said. He denied that Trump shared any “intelligence sources or methods”. The thing is, nobody is reporting that he did that. The WaPo article says the President shared “highly classified information” regarding ISIS and/or terrorism in general. That is neither sources nor methods.

      I am still not taking a position on this issue but every Washington watcher in the world is talking about this. We can’t just dismiss it and walk away from it.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      There is another aspect of this thing…

      In the history of the Real Revo – from 1/20/2009 through 1/19/2017 – did the regulars on this site ever, a single time, consider a potential presidential scandal “debunked” based on nothing more than a denial from the member of the president’s administration?

      Not that I recall. I don’t know why we would start now.

      • notamobster says:

        We wouldn’t. We shouldn’t. If it is legit, it needs to be hammered on, no matter who is in the oval! We’re already being an order of magnitude nicer than we would have to Obama.

        I recall people freaking out about zero signing an 82nd airborne insignia banner…

  7. R.D. Walker says:

    This is a little troubling. The authors at the Washington Post seem to have enough classified intelligence that government officials have asked them not to reveal it. That seems to confirm something was leaked.

  8. Jim22 says:

    Lately the media has been systematically attacking people they perceive to be opposed to them. It worked with Bill O’Reilly, Roger Ailes, and they are trying it on Sean Hannity. They are doing the same with Trump but they are throwing everything they have against him. This is just the latest example – but it won’t be the last.

    If this allegation doesn’t bring him down it will at least damage his credibility and make more Americans distrust him. So it’s working.

    It’s easy to take a simple comment at a meeting between enemies and stretch it to mean something it never said. The Washington Pos has done it in the past and will do it again. And they are not the only ones.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      Have you concluded then, that this is a nothing sandwhich served up by the anti-Trump media and nothing untoward happened?

      • Jim22 says:

        No, I am not. I think Trump is an amateur who has gotten in over his head. But I also am certain that the anti-Trump media is entirely capable of what I described. I am impressed by facts and this WaPo article is innuendo, not fact. I am also affected by the fact that a high-level military man who was there said it didn’t happen.

        • R.D. Walker says:

          “I am also affected by the fact that a high-level military man who was there said it didn’t happen.”

          • Uke says:

            It’s tough to try and take the following two positions simultaneously:

            1) You should trust my surrogates and listen to their side of the story, over some anonymously sourced media reports.
            2) You can’t trust my surrogates because they can’t possibly know what’s going on in my mad, mad world.

            And yet, that’s precisely what Trump is trying to do.

            • fasttimes says:

              he is also full of shit sometimes and not to be taken at his word and other times says what he means and is to be taken at his word.

              its hard to keep up with to listen to him and when to not.

              it seems i could argue at this point the wash post has added harm to this situation by “confirming” the info trump “gave” the russians.

        • Jim22 says:

          I do think that Trump has gotten in over his head. Neither he nor any of us knew either the scope of the job of Presidency nor the hatred with which the left would view his election.

          Many Presidents have remarked how they thought they were ready for the job until they walked into the Oval office. They all wound up playing catch-up.

          This President is no different but he also has the entire news media opposing him. Violently.

          He is learning fast because he’s a smart guy but he needs to stop letting his shotgun mouth overload his BB ass. He also needs to take control of the media. He hasn’t tried that so far.

          He keeps putting other people out to face the media and they are getting crucified. Trump is media savvy. He needs to use that savvy to put the reporters on defense. He can do it, too.

          Several times I have opined that Trump has underestimated the strength of the bureaucracy. It’s true. But even more he has underestimated the power of a media that universally hates him.

          Other Presidents have made the mistake of trying to lock out the media. That won’t work here. He needs to outsmart them.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      Aren’t you relieved that the progressives are finally taking an interest in the proper handling of classified information? 😀

      • Jim22 says:

        I would not reach that conclusion from this. Progressives have not become interested in the proper handling of classified info. This is another example of how they will take any position, momentarily, if it will damage an enemy of theirs.

  9. C. L. says:

    What is maddening to me on this whole subject is that the media was openly and publicly given factual information that Hillary and some of her aids committed felonies involving national security, and then played it down and even tried to say that was not the case.

    Then, with it publicly stated by many intelligence officials that there is no factual information implicating Trump in the Russian election involvement BS, plus this latest deal about Trump leaking info, they are on it like a pack of rabid dogs.

    Without knowing the truth about this subject, I do strongly believe that the media is completely biased and is a domestic enemy of this country, not just Trump. Why? Because they support leftist causes all the time and leftist causes go against everything I believe this country is about.

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