Flickertail State Wake Up Call?

First, read this article.

Meet the Brossarts, a North Dakota family deemed so dangerous that the local sheriff needed unleashed an unmanned Predator drone to help bring them in.
The Brossart’s alleged crime? They wouldn’t give back three cows and their calves that wandered onto their 3,000-acre farm this summer.
The same aerial vehicles used by the CIA to track down and assassinate terrorists and militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan are now being deployed by cops to spy on Americans in their own backyards.

Then, read this.

Nestled amid plains so flat the locals joke you can watch your dog run away for miles, Fargo treasures its placid lifestyle, seldom pierced by the mayhem and violence common in other urban communities. North Dakota’s largest city has averaged fewer than two homicides a year since 2005, and there’s not been a single international terrorism prosecution in the last decade.

But that hasn’t stopped authorities in Fargo and its surrounding county from going on an $8 million buying spree to arm police officers with the sort of gear once reserved only for soldiers fighting foreign wars.

Drones to spy on American citizens? The military assitsing local police over “stolen cows”? Military equipment for local police departments? What are they gearing up for? Is this part of the New Amerika? I am quite concerned about this.

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13 Responses to Flickertail State Wake Up Call?

  1. notamobster says:

    Homeland Stupidity has been funding the militarization of the local police depts for years & years. They give grants and locals agree to dance with the devil when he asks. Meaning, in times of emergency, Homeland Stupidity dictates the actions of their assets and the officers who use them.

    Ask any cop in the country. He is required to take Homeland Stupidity/FEMA training.

  2. Bman says:

    (From the top article) “The same aerial vehicles used by the CIA to track down and assassinate terrorists and militants in Pakistan and Afghanistan are now being deployed by cops to spy on Americans in their own backyards.”

    So who is held accountable for the use of these drones when spying on American citizens in their own backyard? I’m pretty sure this drone used wasn’t owned by local police…

    Whomever gave the authority to use such an intrusive search via drone should be ashamed of themselves. Are people really willing to tolerate this?

    • R.D. Walker says:

      Question: Would it be better if a Cessna 152 was loaded up with the same surveillance equipment and flown around by a pilot? They have been doing that for years.

      It is a legitimate question. The drone thing seems troubling to me too but I am not sure why.

      • notamobster says:

        Maybe it’s the fact that the larger drones can be weaponized and their association (justified or not) with these implements being known as weapons of war.

        Combine that with the completely rational fear & distrust of an ever-encroaching government who fears & distrusts it’s citizens and you have quite the environment for problems.

        It’s better that a govt be transparent with it’s people and conduct business above board to prevent things like this. As a result, people now distrust their local governments, based upon the actions of their federal govt.

        • R.D. Walker says:

          Yeah, they seem like weapons of war. That is no small part of it. Plus, we know the limitations of a Cessna 152. These things are mysterious to us.

          On the other hand, if somebody attacked my family and was fleeing in the night, and the Sheriff told me they could track him down with a drone with FLIR and IR capabilities, I would be 100% on board with using it.

          • notamobster says:

            Touche.

            On the flipside, if some guy rapes & murders my daughter, I’m completely okay with me setting up a hide and removing his center mass, from a distance, via intermediate range sniping platforms in my possession… or simply cutting his throat up close.

            Both of which, I am wholly opposed to as matters of law and acceptability in polite, free, society. :-)

            Exigent circumstances can be used to justify all manner of abuse. I’m not saying that is what you’re advocating. We all know otherwise.

            • R.D. Walker says:

              Yes, you should never write law based on your own violent revenge fantasies.

              That said, I would support the use of drones like the one in the video tracking down scum bags whether I am the victim or not. I guess I am saying that these things have a role in law enforcement I can support. I just don’t want it abused.

  3. Bman says:

    Well, who has the actual authority to do such a thing? Local police? Or the military? Should the military have authorization in local law enforcement matters??

    • R.D. Walker says:

      “Well, who has the actual authority to do such a thing?”

      Anybody. There is nothing that prevents me from doing it personally. You can film the ground from an airplane.

      • Bman says:

        I understand that. My point is are we going to allow the military to be involved in local police issues especially when there is no threat of violence? I’m not sure what my point is anymore…I lost it.

  4. sortahwitte says:

    Oh yes. Some day the police will have military weapons, uniforms, helmets, vehicles. Oh I hope it never happens. (sarc.)

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