Indiana Passes ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law

The different thing about this new law is that it does not limit ‘Stand Your Ground’ to only civilian perpetrators. It includes perpetrators who are public servants as well. Here is the link. Read it yourself.

(i) A person is justified in using reasonable force against a public servant if the person reasonably believes the force is necessary to:
(1) protect the person or a third person from what the person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful force;
(2) prevent or terminate the public servant’s unlawful entry of or attack on the person’s dwelling, curtilage, or occupied motor vehicle; or
(3) prevent or terminate the public servant’s unlawful trespass on or criminal interference with property lawfully in the person’s possession, lawfully in possession of a member of the person’s immediate family, or belonging to a person whose property the person has authority to protect.”

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23 Responses to Indiana Passes ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law

  1. Notamobster says:

    Louisiana Revised Statute clearly states that there is no offense in using force against peace officers who are illegally using force against you or making an unlawful arrest. This is as it should be.

  2. KWMatthews says:

    That is amazingly awesome.

  3. whosebone says:

    this would certainly make me think long and hard about going into law enforcement.

  4. Uke says:

    VERY strong and awesome clause. Very appropriate.

    A private citizen MUST be able to defend himself lawfully against an officer that is abusing his authority.

  5. Uke says:

    @whosebone

    I understand the officer’s personal risk that he undertakes whenever doing the job, but he must not think himself above the law. Ever.

  6. Notamobster says:

    The thought never bothered me, because I always conducted myself with honor… Always erring on the side of individual liberty.

  7. sortahwitte says:

    Hopefully that will put a brake on slapdash warrants and bogus house numbers. Double and triple check those addresses.

  8. RUDE JUDE says:

    Well then. I’m happy to be a Hoosier!! My Man Mitch!

  9. Notamobster says:

    Wrong house numbers, you say? We once raided a dope spot on a DEA warrant (regional task force) . The Feds did the paperwork, and as usual we did all the heavy lifting.

    So they give us the intel, “it’s the orange shotgun house around the corner”… Remember that houses in the ghetto don’t generally have house numbers.

    Stack up. Breach. 80-some year old woman is literally knitting and poops her pants when men with guns, clad on black body armor knock her doors in.

    Wrong f-king house. It’s the one next-door. On a whim, we knock and they open the door with dope on the coffee table and surrender without so much as a whimper.

    Wrong house numbers… Apologies, new doors, a check, and some stained underbritches. Don’t rely on the Feds. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.

  10. Uke says:

    The possibility exists that with such a law, a cop gets told to enter the wrong house and gets shot by the owner that was otherwise doing nothing wrong.

    However, there already IS the danger of people getting scared to death or shot by cops that conduct such entries. Not only is there already the danger, it already happens. Has happened…

    Triple check that intel.

    • Paul VanGogh says:

      Reply to Uke’s post on ‘entering the wrong house.’

      I’m not clear about this business of I’m from the old school where a) one asks to come in, or b) one has a warrant.

      Thing is, I’ve been hearing this about warrants being old-fashioned. I’m told the Patriot Act has reduced LOTS the need for warrants. Judges still are willing to consdider and, often, write a warrant out. But policemen, some careful and wise but some unfortunately a bit on the act-quick with high-school education side…, now can do their own warrant-making.

      am I off the track?

      • notamobster says:

        Cops have always written the warrants. Judges sign them. We wrote our own, and requested approval.

        Cops are only allowed to enter a home without a warrant, on very specific circumstances (i.e. following a suspect, cries for help, emergency response, door left open, etc…). <— In other words, with probable cause.

        The Patriot act is an abortion of American jurisprudence and Constitutional governance. It’s a miserable POS which never should’ve been written. It allows for all kinds of federal violation of rights. None of those apply to state or local police.

  11. Hoosier Cop says:

    As an Indiana cop, the main fear is that the common citizen does not know what a ‘legal entry’ of their residence is. Therefore, some yocal is going to attempt to grab a cop when the cop is doing nothing illegal, and get his ass whooped!

    To prevent unnecessary bloodshed, lawsuits, and court hearings… maybe Indiana Police should just stop making house calls?

    Taxes will pay for public police to police public areas… need help on your private property? Call a private security company!!!

    • Paul VanGogh says:

      Wait! I’m not going to need help on my property. I’d like as much help as possible on a certain not-so-far street….

      Said street is in the gentrifying neighborhood. In one block of that street 3 (at very least 2) houses of, um shall I say, commerce exist. Those places need to be busted. I understand the feelings of Hoosier Cop, but I have feelings too. An acquaintance down there, on that street, was unable to afford to afford moving(out) and has been destroyed in effect by thos ‘commerce’ houses. (They came over when high once and came in and got to him. They mock him on the street….)

      I want enforcement that extends into private houses. But limitations so someone with not the most secure ego —> surprising a homeowner who puts his hands in the air and insults the LEO does not make an arrest via pistol-whipping.

      respectfully
      Sir

      Sir

    • Mattias says:

      I’d be on board with that. Since there are far less public areas than private areas, we could reduce the police force by…oh, I don’t know…80%? Maybe then you and your cop buddies can go find real jobs in the private sector.

  12. tiredofhoosierharrassment says:

    hoosier cop your fear comes from pushin us around cause the law has always protected u now u push me around or search my car after i say no your ass is mine so i will do as u all do and just assume u r bad because every cop i have ever dealt with has violated my rites and i do mean everyone of u. u all have cop syndrome which is basically like short man syndrome acting like a pure dick just cause u r on a power trip u should be polite until being a dick is called for not being a dick just to try and force us 2 catch more charges i cant even set on my indoor porch without a cop fuckin with me he was serving papers next door but decided 2 be a dick and fuck with me cause i was smokin a cig he acually had the nerve to look at my ash tray and pack of camels and say i thought u had a pack of weed. what the fuck is a pack of weed lol, when i had long hair i was called a stoner and he said i was lying when a child only 14 who should not be driving hit my parked car while i was shopping i been searched and fucked with for having tattoo’s and long hair never have i ever been treated like a person hell not even as good as a dog and as for the ppl knowing the law no cop i ever talked 2 knows his ass from his elbow about the law and if they do they never obey it cause who the fuck can stop em, well now i can so if you were not being a fuckin bully u would have nothing to fear just cause u were a pussy in school gives u no rite to fuck with ppl who look like they may be a bad guy cause i am the nicest polite guy u could ever meet but i have never gotten a chance 2 show it so now u dont deserve a chance and i would rather police myself its better than givin a bully on a power trip a gun and the idea he is above us oh and i’m sick of how many cops say they r black belts well so am i and what kind of threat is that, it reminds me of a scared little boy

    • notamobster says:

      First off – your angry screed may be semi-justified toward a cop or two whom you’ve had experience with, but in my experience as a police officer, they are not all like that. Many do power-trip from the authority and those should never be given the power to take away a man’s freedom.

      By blanketing all cops as ‘dicks’, ‘cop syndrome’, etc… you are being exactly like those you decry. Most cops are not dicks, but behave in a professional, and courteous manner. Those who don’t, should lose their badge.

      • Gershwin says:

        This is not fair. Hoosier Cop is stating his case, including his own feelings (and who wants dry observations, just?) Good policemen I have a have a hunch are dealing with immaturity and resentment so very often.

        If we all try to get along, and we recognize crime is part of the real world…. If we try to be considerate
        //

        Notamobster’s comment is right on. :)

  13. jacksonsdad says:

    Well, I guess a few commas is better than nothin’!

  14. R.D. Walker says:

    tiredofh… Dude, full auto is fun but you need to let up on the trigger every so often and swap out the barrel. Otherwise it’s going to overheat and melt down.

  15. Bruce says:

    Take a hard look at Chicago. I could clean it up in 6 months. Declare marshal law. Call in gov’t troops and stop the violence. Send the gang’s packing. The Mayor of Chicago is worried at people not coming to Chicago to visit. Who is there right mine would come to the south side of Chicago. Now the Gangs are crossing the border into Indiana. Let them come to my house. Stand your Ground.

  16. david greenberg says:

    the right to self-defense is the right that preserves all other rights…authority acting according to regulations must be obeyed in order to keep a lid on individual nutzo behavior (and it doesn’t take much to paralyze the entire community)…but let’s face it: when a cop or any other individual is acting outside the law, all bets are off. this is a good law and i’ll be damned if a bunch of howling a-holes in florida have the right to change the way we live in indiana. you want to live in a controlled environment? move to california or chicago where government control is obviously working so well.

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