Sugar coating history in Egypt
June 4, 2009Here is a nugget from Obama’s speech in Egypt.
I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America’s story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796, our second President John Adams wrote, “The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims.”
And now for the rest of the story….The 1796 treaty in which Adams wrote those words failed. The Muslims continued their attacks.
Barbary Coast Muslims capture US Navy Vessel
The result was the First Barbary War or the Tripolitan War. It was the first of two wars fought between the United States and the North African Muslim fiefdoms known collectively as the Barbary States. These were the independent Sultanate of Morocco, and the three Regencies of Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli. On Jefferson’s inauguration as president in 1801, Yussif Karamanli, the Pasha of Tripoli, demanded $225,000 from the new administration of what was essentially bribes to give safe passage to American ships. That would have been about 2.25% of the federal budget in those days. As a portion of today’s federal budget, that would be about $67 billion.
Jefferson refused the demand. Consequently, in May 1801, the Pasha declared war on the United States, not through any formal written documents but by cutting down the flagstaff in front of the U.S. Consulate. Algiers and Tunis soon followed their ally in Tripoli. Jefferson sent the Navy and Marines and invaded North Africa and defeated the Pasha of Tripoli. This is the first time in history that the United States flag was raised in victory on foreign soil. This action was memorialized in a line from the Marines’ Hymn — “the shores of Tripoli.”
As for John Adams, his son and president John Quncy Adams knew jihad. He wrote…
“…he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind…The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God.”
Adams also wrote this:
“As the essential principle of his faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.
Obama quoted some simple facts and nice words, but they greatly distorted the history of American/Muslim relations.
Mad Brad :
Date: June 4, 2009
Of course. He is a Liar. He distorts EVERYTHING in order to serve his purposes.
R.D. Walker :
Date: June 4, 2009
Obama this morning…
Got that? Don’t elevate the American civilization over North Korea, Chad, Zimbabwe or even Fiji. We are all equal. God Bless
Americathe United Nations.R.D. Walker :
Date: June 4, 2009
Thomas Jefferson and John Adams called on Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman to negotiate the treaty Obama referenced. They asked him by what gave him the right to extort money and take Americans slaves. This was the ambassador’s response as Jefferson presented to Congress.
The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.
They are still working under that understanding today. I am guessing that Jefferson knew there would be war at that moment.
UpNorth :
Date: June 4, 2009
Too bad that the Obamessiah was too busy organizing to study him some history, bro. God, this administration just keeps on trying to drag us down into the weeds with people like Achmadinnerjacket, Kaddafi, and the like.
Too bad history isn’t taught in schools anymore.
Mad Brad :
Date: June 4, 2009
I think we need to let go of our American Ego and quit pretending that we are elevated above all those countries we send gozzilions of TAXPAYER DOLLARS to every year. To presume that they need aid and that we are in a position to render aid can only come from the imperialist mindset that we are somehow better than the global welfare recipients of our stolen money.
James :
Date: June 4, 2009
Ludacris’ rap has been supplemented with pictures.
***** admits he’s a Muslim.
***** refuses to salute our flag.
We let an invader become president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18VOGykrgHo
notamobster :
Date: June 4, 2009
Amazing how the left cherry picks history for their own ends, isn’t it? Granted, all politicians do it. (I don’t support either party in it’s current iteration) This administration seems to be taking their propaganda strategy directly from Goebbels.
Roy Ryder :
Date: June 4, 2009
R.D., great quote. Very clear and telling. I agree that they are still working under the same belief, just couched in less obvious terms.
McLaren :
Date: June 4, 2009
Savages all. And Hussein is busy lapping up their slop. This guy is beyond worthless, he’s dangerous.
joe buzz :
Date: June 4, 2009
He forgot to thank the Muslims for giving us the US Navy and Marines.
Jim :
Date: June 4, 2009
Another disgraceful speech by the Appeaser-in-chief. He’s making Jimmy Carter look like Teddy Roosevelt.
This post will be lengthy but hopefully worth the effort.
What’s amazing is that some of the greatest thinkers of the era 1830′s had a astoundingly similar view of Islam.
Alexis De Tocqueville described Islam in this fashion: “I studied the Quran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction that by and large there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion more to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.”
As for another founding father who told the truth about Islam, John Quincy Adams had similar views.
“In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (mohammed), the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent god; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.
Between these two religions[Christianity and Islam], thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus (Blunt, 1830, 29:269, capitals in orig.).”
John Quincy Adams
Sixth President of The United States of America
1830
More J.Q. Adams:
“The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force (Blunt, 29:274).”
M. Verney :
Date: April 20, 2010
I’m a graduate student at the University of New Hampshire specializing in the diplomacy of the Early Republic. It turns out that your initial understanding, Mr. Walker, is incorrect. Morocco WAS one of the first countries to recognize American independence, and it was a different political entity from Algiers, Tunis, or Tripoli, against whom we either fought mini-wars (Tripoli under Jefferson, Algiers under Madison, and some troubles with Tunis in the same period). The main problem that I take with your version of history is that you lump “muslims” all together without giving the President credit for his (fruitful!) acknowledgment of Morocco’s recognition of our separation from England. Morocco by this time, it should be noted, was drifting away from the type of piracy practiced by the other three Barbary Powers. This is not to say that our relations with Islamic-nations have always been peaceful; as you point out, we had a blockade and several assaults on Tripoli from 1802-1805, but there is validity to what President Obama has said in regard to Muslim-American relations in this early period. Let’s give credit where it’s due!
R.D. Walker :
Date: April 20, 2010
M. Verney: Fair enough. The United States didn’t go to war with all North African Muslims following the treaty. We went to war with the Muslims of of Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli. We were at peace with Morocco. Still, my overarching point was that Obama was greatly overstating the “role of Islam in America” by claiming that our relationship with Morocco exemplified a peaceful relationship. It is just as easy to point out – and probably more relevant – that our experience with North African Muslims during that period was as enemies.
Congratulations on your graduate studies.
Nobody :
Date: April 20, 2010
M Verney – you say that the President should be given “credit for his (fruitful!) acknowledgment of Morocco’s recognition of our separation from England”. Exactly what “fruit” of any concrete or practically useful nature exactly has this borne?
Nobody :
Date: April 20, 2010
Didn’t mean to say “exactly” twice there. Exactly.
Nobody :
Date: April 20, 2010
I should have known RD wouldn’t let a comment on a 10 month old post get by unchallenged! Exactly!