What The Heck Is Going On?

Why are the facts still unclear, weeks later?

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17 Responses to What The Heck Is Going On?

  1. BigJimTX says:

    Think about how few bombings take place. Now recall how often people are arrested for planning a bombing. Luckily, the FBI has an impeccable track record. Or are they the ones planting the seed?

    When I heard about Sandy Hook, I suspected much of the same. This looks really bad.

    By the way, isn’t it the ME’s job to figure out how big the holes are and the detective’s job to match ballistics?

  2. Rockheim says:

    All the reported “confusion” use video clips from the day of or day after the shooting as things were still being sorted out.
    And the video.. That’s the 2nd rifle.. which wasn’t identified that I’m aware of.. But it’s not an AR that I can tell. The cop cycles it and it looks like it drops the box mag (1:21-1:22).. But it’s small and square. Reminds me of a Ruger 10/22 mag but it seems a bit bigger than that..

  3. notamobster says:

    So, Rock, are you saying that this video is using video from the day of the incident and conflating the issue?

    • Rockheim says:

      Well as usually is the case.. the media created the conspiracy through shoddy, craptastic, me first, run with anything to the mike reporting.
      This feeds conspiracy. Because what you have surfacing now is various outlets trying to make the case that that which was first reported was the absolute or actual fact of the case and the clarification later on is the cover up.
      When that’s not how it works. How it works is that you have a bunch of reporters and news stations all trying to one up each other with the latest breaking fact. And they’re all pretty much universally wrong about everything.
      And the problem is that there is more than enough incorrectly reported information to make compelling, though incorrect, arguments.
      So do to the absolutely horrid reporting of the day we have several different ways this could shake out.. and everyone is a co-conspirator.
      But you’ll never get it to work out that way. There will always be SOMETHING that doesn’t pass the smell test yet MUST be taken as absolute fact. Like the rifle in the video.
      For this conspiracy to stick you have to look at the shaky, out of focus, heliocopter video and look at a black gun, against a dark background in the trunk, at night.. and positively ID it as an AR of some kind.
      But it’s not.
      All the actual video is from the day (and night) of the incident. But the video of the media talking, for everyone I’ve seen, covers days..
      Mix it all up in a bowl, place in a baking dish, into the preheated over for 45 minutes and VIOLA!! Instant conspiracy.

      • notamobster says:


        I was asking because I don’t have tv. I haven’t watched any videos or news reports on it since then – until I saw a link that says “ABC reporting no assault rifle was used” this morning. I clicked it and posted here, asking for input, which you freely offered. Then, I smiled. Thank you.

  4. R.D. Walker says:

    Some of that coverage is pretty old. I think it is pretty well established now that he had the two handguns and the Bushmaster AR-15 in the school and left a Saiga 12 gauge shotgun in the car. In fact, the weapon being removed from car in the video looks a bit more like the Saiga 12 than a Bushmaster to me.

    • Jim22 says:

      I agree. Maybe not a Saiga but a shotgun. It has a pistol grip like an AR but it looks like a semi-auto shotgun. The cop works the action, ejecting at least one shell. Then he turns the gun and it appears to have an auxiliary shell holder on the right side of the buttstock.

      I have a little trouble with the cop handling it without gloves. If this is a crime scene that gun is evidence. If nothing else, fingerprints could have led to its owner.

      • Rockheim says:

        I beleive that all the firearms were already known to have been the property of his mother..

      • PhoneGuy says:

        Jim22 – I would agree with you on the shotgun theory. Although dark, that does not look like a AR-15 especially the way it is being handled.

        I do, however, think the officer is actually wearing gloves. Even with the bright lights, the hands look extremely white and seem to end before his sleeves.

  5. Greg B says:

    I read an article in th LA Times that said the “bushmaster” was
    LEFT IN THE CAR that Lanza drove to the school.

  6. A Guy says:

    They lie so much they can’t even keep their lies straight anymore.

  7. westie says:

    “They lie so much they can’t even keep their lies straight anymore”…it’s another Gubermint hoax…just think “Fast & Furious”.

  8. PhoneGuy says:

    The most frightening (and sad) part of this situation is that we will not obtain straight answers and we will never see any real follow up from the press because already this story is sooooooo last week. We need to talk about the “fiscal cliff” and maybe they can get Obama to shed some tears for their cameras again.