Should conservatives support going over the cliff?

For four years Obama has been on an unsustainable spending spree. Americans have enjoyed the benefits of government spending while being shielded from its costs. In November, they voted to keep the government gravy train rolling.

Taxing the rich won’t pay for the government people elected; not even close. Is it time to stop shielding Americans from the consequences of their political choices?

Marc A. Thiessen, a fellow with the American Enterprise Institute, says we should go over the cliff… with gusto.

Big government is great if you don’t have to pay for it. Well, now it’s time to pay the bill. Maybe when the costs of the stimulus, Obamacare and exploding entitlements are finally deducted from their paychecks, Americans will rediscover the virtue of smaller government. If they don’t like paying higher taxes to allow for more spending, there’s a simple solution: Demand that politicians in Washington cut taxes and spending instead of expanding them. And if they won’t do it, elect men and women who will.

Until then, Republicans need to stop protecting Americans from the consequences of their decisions to elect profligate politicians.

A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. Few realize the mugging they are about to get.

Few people have any idea just how many thousands each of us will pay in extra taxes.

Brad Allen and his family are bracing for the fiscal cliff impact.

“This is going to be tough,” said Allen.

They had no idea how much more they’d pay in taxes until CBS13 sat down with them. Allen and his wife bring in about $200,000 a year together. If we go over the fiscal cliff, they could be paying an extra $8,000 a year.

“My goodness, I thought it was going to be about $4,500. At the very most, I was guessing about five” said Allen.

A couple making much less, $80,000 combined, would pay an extra $3,000. A single person with a $50,000 salary would see more than $1,500 in higher taxes.

This will have a tremendous negative impact on the economy but it is the economy for which America voted. Americans should not be shielded from the consequences of their actions. Let them feel the pain associated with the vote they cast. Only then will fiscal conservatism begin to take hold.

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9 Responses to Should conservatives support going over the cliff?

  1. Uke says:

    I fully agree. It will be painful for us all, but how likely do you think it is that this country has rapidly trended left precisely because we shield Americans from the consequences of big government?

    In a way, this could be a watershed moment in which Americans rediscover the benefits of small government. Namely, you get to keep WAY more green in your wallet. Thus far, they’ve been able to do that AND get bread and circuses, to boot, but only because we rack up astronomical debt. And that’s absolutely invisibly to Honey Boo Boo.

  2. BigJimTX says:

    I don’t think Boehner has the stones for it, but I hope the conservatives in the house do. I say we charge the cliff at Mach speed. Sure, it’ll hurt. Bad. But there are many entitlements that go away and worst case is we pay Clinton era taxes. The republicans will get blamed, but they don’t have to worry about an election till 2016 since the gun control debate is front and center. God knows what would happen if we got routed in 2014. Let EVERYBODY bear the burden for awhile. Remember when the Bush tax cuts were only for the rich? Time to dispel that untruth.

    Buckle up, this is gonna get hairy.

  3. Woodface says:

    I decided on election night that I believed that the Republicans should just stand down completely, (other than perhaps on rubber stamping judges and appointees.. they shouldn’t do that)…. and just let the lefties have their way… just vote present and let them raise taxes on the rich to 99% if they want to (even though I personally disagree with the tactic strongly) and then step back and say “there you go.. you wanted it… you got it… we will try your way” and watch the economy utterly emplode while the parasites scream for more and more until they HAVE to have their taxes raised and then watch the Dems explain to them that there is no more money to get anywhere else. They raised a pack of feral dogs, let them go in and feed them alone. By letting us go over the cliff THIS way… (which will admittedly have the same result)… they give the Dems the ability to prolong it further (thus making it worse) by giving them the option of saying “Well the republicans are the reason YOUR taxes went up instead of JUST rich folks”….

    It isn’t that I want to give in to the parasite class, but the math is such that the middle class are going to have to start chipping in no matter what… a LOT… just to keep our heads above water… the only thing fighting the Dems accomplishes is that it allows them to further the fantasy that there are enough rich people to handle the bill.

    So I am all for going over the cliff… but I would have rather done it in a way that made it obvious to everyone whose policies were to blame.

  4. BigJimTX says:

    I agree, but Barry isn’t going to go for any solution that doesn’t ultimately allow him to blame republicans for the outcome. He is a slick bastard, so you might as well stick it to his constituents. They voted for pie. Smash them in the face with it.

  5. Jim22 says:

    Conservative support is not needed. Obama doesn’t want to avoid the cliff, ergo, we will go over it.

    This cliff starting January 1 will not be the end of it, either. It is the beginning. There is a lot more pain to come. The talk of the ‘Fiscal Cliff’ is a side show designed to keep people talking about it and not about the rest of his agenda.

  6. James says:

    Stop worrying about whether Republicans or Democrats will be blamed. A collapsed government is a collapsed government, no matter who is at fault.
    The solution is to hold the debt ceiling.
    Doesn’t matter what taxes do.
    I would like to see taxes double for a year. It would teach those aholes who voted entitlements a lesson.
    I would like to see deep entitlement cuts. I don’t think that will happen. The military goes before the protected class.

  7. Notamobster says:

    Messaging. Republicans lose. People will feel pain. most aren’t smart enough to figure out why. They’ll believe what they’re told by their betters.

  8. messup says:

    Started in late 1990’s, extended into 2000’s and has come to roost! What, one asks, has come to roost? Subprime loans and the “yeah-yeah-yeah” mentality of the 2000’s…”yes, we can.” We The Elite People of culture of corruption in Washington DC, crony-capitalism and “free money.” That’s what!!!

    This train has been a long time on the road and “Keynesian” economics, i.e., propping up shaky banks with “too big to fail,” corporations and their millions of union laborers (faltering pension funds), and State (municiplaities) with less than solid financial structures is just a continuation of these many failed policies We The Elite “greed, power hungry and corrupt” Washington DC-ites are continuing to “keep afloat” with “tax and spend,” fiscal cliff. doom and gloom predictions.

    By placing in the hands of lo-income, tenement dwellers countless billions of dollars in entitlements, as well as aging retiring babyboomers government assistance programs merely means the “can-keeps-getting-kicked-down-the-road.” The Federal Reserve is merely putting off a day of reckoning. When that comes, dollar devalued to nothing status, inflation at an all time high and government in complete collapse, just like in the 1900’s when Morgan stepped up to the plate to bail out the Federal Government…funny how history keeps on repeating itself.
    Except, in 2013, there’s no Morgan!!!Pray. Amen.