Barry’s Testing The Waters

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29 Responses to Barry’s Testing The Waters

  1. R.D. Walker says:

    In other words, “Fuck the Constitution. All power is vested in Obama.”

    Nah, I am guessing they’re just floating it so that when he backs down he’s being “reasonable.”

    • notamobster says:

      Yep. I think he’s just checking to see what kind of reaction he gets. I hope, at least. You never know when you have a man with a sense of entitlement, arrogance, and lazy-disinterest.

      • R.D. Walker says:

        It is becoming increasingly evident that this administration is comfortable with guns in the hands of no one other than the government and Mexican drug lords.

  2. R.D. Walker says:

    “As the president said, if you’re actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking…”

    Banning transportation above 10 mph would save 50,000 lives a year.

  3. Greg B says:

    He can’t possibly be that stupid.
    Wait a minute……….

  4. TaterSalad says:

    Any member of Congress or the Senate at either the Federal or State levels who supports any type of legislation that infringes on our 2nd. Amendment will become unemployed. That is a promise!

  5. R.D. Walker says:

    There is only a few piddly things he can do with an executive order. Like tell federal LEO agencies to share information. If he tries to ban something with an XO, it will quickly overturned in the courts.

  6. DarthJay says:

    It really is a fine line, isn’t it?

    Do I have anything against people owning a gun? No. Do I really see the point in anybody owning an assault weapon? Honestly, no. Do I think a ban on these kinds of weapons will stop people from committing crimes with them? Absolutely not.

    If a person is going to use a gun to commit a crime, I will admit it’s certainly a lot easier to do if they know somebody who has one that they can steal it from. But if they don’t, what in the heck is going to stop them from obtaining it in a back alley somewhere?

    I do, honest to God, think we need to have some serious talks in this country about all the killing sprees that have been going on over the last decade. Would some of those talks include stricter gun control laws? Sure, I’m game for it – if for no other reason than to help prevent a crazy person from taking a gun from somebody they know (but I think we’ll find that a very small percentage of people get their guns that way…it’s just fresh on our minds because of Newton).

    So what’s the answer? Thoughts?

    My personal belief is that we have a general lack of morality in this country…now more so than ever. Parents let their kids play violent games or watch violent TV shows without having a conversation about why it’s wrong…they let those things do their babysitting for them. The family unit is under constant scrutiny and attack and more and more kids are growing up without consequences to their actions or the proper mother/father figures in their life to help them along. Technology is great, but social media outlets put kids under constant peer pressure and scrutiny about who they are and how they look – and parents aren’t stepping in to put a stop to it. I could go on and on…my point is that this can’t be fixed by laws and it can’t be fixed by government. If you have kids, remember you are their guardian/protector FIRST – and then their friend. I know everyone HERE knows that, unfortunately I think America has forgotten.

    • Jim22 says:

      “Do I really see the point in anybody owning an assault weapon? Honestly, no.”

      Do you know why the second amendment was put in the constitution? From the writings of people like Jefferson it is clear that the reason was to give the people a chance to reject tyranny.

      Americans did an amazing thing when we won the revolutionary war against England. We were up against the greatest military power on Earth and we pulled it off.

      It was defeat for a long time. American forces were routed from Boston and New York. The capitol, Philadelphia was abandoned. Our men fell back to New Jersey. That is where the tide turned.

      Men like Jefferson were determined that future Americans would have the opportunity to do what those men did – throw off a tyrant. They were not ensuring a right to hunt or shoot for sport.

      It is for that reason that Americans should own semi-automatic guns with high capacity magazines. Most Americans know that. That’s why there has been such a run on these rifles, their magazines, and their ammunition.

      I would also like to point out that the term ‘Assault Weapons’ in a term invented by the anti gun people to engender a negative image. The AR-15 is not an assault weapon. It will not fire in full-automatic mode.

      In the late 1940′s, after WWII, there were two classes of small arms: service rifles and submachine guns. Service rifles fired large, high power cartidges like the .30-06. Submachine guns used pistol cartridges like the .45 ACP and the 9mm Luger.

      Service rifles typically carried only a few rounds, five to eight. The ammunition is bulky and heavy. Submachine guns carried larger quantities because they needed them to become effective.

      A designer in Russia combined the best of the two, the larger capacity and cartridges of higher power. They were also able to fire in full auto mode. That third type needed a classification. It was called ‘Assault Rifle’ for obvious reasons.

      Lately the term ‘Assault Rifle’ has been changed by the media to ‘Assault Weapon’ because ‘Weapon’ has a negative connotation where ‘Rifle’ does not.

      I suggest that Revo readers correct anyone who mistakenly uses the term ‘Assault Weapon’.

      Also, it is plain to me that if Americans are to ever resist tyrants we must have the best tools available.

      • notamobster says:

        Jim – Nice.

        We may not be able to match arm-for-arm the destructive power of Ma Deuce or the SAW. But… after you kill enough of the enemy to begin seizing their weapons you will then find yourself on more-equal footing.

        Our government wants our guns gone so they can control us.

        WON’T.
        EVER.
        HAPPEN.

        Not so long as I have the breath of God in my nostrils.

  7. notamobster says:

    I do, honest to God, think we need to have some serious talks in this country about all the killing sprees that have been going on over the last decade. Would some of those talks include stricter gun control laws? Sure, I’m game for it – if for no other reason than to help prevent a crazy person from taking a gun from somebody they know (but I think we’ll find that a very small percentage of people get their guns that way…

    We need to start those talks with facts. In 2011, 327 people were killed by rifles in the United States. Every single day, quadrillions of interactions occur between Americans. Thousands of these interactions result in death. Less than one results in death by rifle.

    26,631 people died from “falls” in 2011. What we need, is a serious conversation on necessary control measures to prevent ladder-related fatalities. In the same year, 40,239 died of drug-induced deaths. When will we get serious about banning drugs in this country?

    238,993 people died in California. Clearly California is a leading cause of death. If we just make a law, banning California, we could prevent a number of these deaths.

    Okay, that’s enough. You (hopefully) get my point. Making laws which restrict my ability to defend myself from all threats (foreign, domestic, gov’t, or civilian) will do nothing to prevent death. Anyone who is intent on killing people, will find a way to do so. I could run down 30 people with my car.

    Every year, billions of flights are taken, and every once in a while, a plane goes down killing lots of passengers. No one calls for the banning of certain types of aircraft. Why? Because the gun control debate is NOT ABOUT THE GUNS. It is and has always been, about control. No debate about gun violence will receive my support if it even suggests impeding my ability to stand up against a tyrannical government. Not now, not ever.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      Yeah, screw gun control. I want controls on “There Ought To Be A Law” and on “Something Must Be Done” and “We Need A National Conversation” and “It Is For The Children”.

    • DocO says:

      Just to give some more ammunition (pun intended) to the argument that Gun Control is not about Guns:

      There are about 2,000 deaths per year from traffic accidents involving alcohol. That’s about 10 times the number of deaths caused by EEEEEEEvil “assault rifles”.

      If you include deaths from alcohol induced diseases the number is 75,000. There are about 30,000 total gun related deaths (including suicide). Alcohol is more that twice as deadly as guns of all kinds.

      If you support banning assault weapons you should also support prohibition of all alcoholic beverages.

      Every misleading argument or out right falsehood used by gun grabbers applies to alcohol.
      - Who needs a 30 shot magazine? Who needs a quart of Jack Daniels?
      - Guns/alcohol only are good for one thing – killing people/getting drunk.
      - We just want reasonable restrictions on guns/alcohol (reasonable restrictions already exist and every new restriction you propose would do nothing to solve the tragic events you’re purporting to to try and prevent)

      If I hear one more advocate of guns on a talk show try and justify second amendment rights by talking about hunting and self defense, I’m gonna scream. IT’S ABOUT PROTECTING ME FROM YOU TYRANTS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MY GUNS!!!!!

      Prohibition didn’t stop alcoholics from getting alcohol. It just made it harder for everyone to get liquor.

      • notamobster says:

        http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf

        33,554 die from accidental poisoning. 648 died from kidney infections. 16,000 from alcoholic liver disease.

        I could go on and on. The point is that many things cause untimely death. The fact that one receives more attention from the whores in the Imperial Media than do all of the others combined (and multiplied by 1,000), does nothing to change the fact that I have rights, endowed to me by Almighty God and guaranteed by my Constitution! Until the proper channels have been used to change my Constitution legally, this – or any other – government has no ability to take away or restrict my firearms.

        As for whether or not you “see the point in anyone owning an assault weapon” – fortunately, my rights are not predicated upon whether or not you, or anyone else, sees a point in me exercising them.

        By the way, stop falling for the liberal myth – semi-automatic rifles ARE NOT ASSAULT RIFLES!

  8. Larry Graham says:

    The president does not have any such power as Executive orders,nor does he have the power of Executive privilege. No one is allowed to make,or enforce any law that violates the U.S. Constitution… The one and only way to alter or change the Constitution is to amend it! Just because the enemy says so doesn’t make it true. Learn Your Constitution,stop believing lies.

    • TN-Cat says:

      I wish that was true Larry. This administration has shown many times over they have no regard for the rule of law.
      Voter right suppression
      Sanctity of marraige
      Immigration
      Campaign contribution
      Cabinet appointments
      Truth and disclosure
      Lying under oath
      Congressional oversight of funds

      …… this list could go on and on.

  9. Shelley Pogue says:

    Barry testing the waters…… I just hope that the gun grabbers, and politicians stop to think about this a lot more. We are not infringing upon their rights not to bear arms, and they should leave our rights to bear them alone as well. The 2nd amendment is not about hunting, or sport shooting, I guess it could be if the owner of that said rifle or gun desired. The reason that I, and many others have guns are to protect ourselves from harm in our homes for self defense, and from a tyrannical government if there ever rose such a need, and for protection against it. Our forefathers saw to it that we would have protection from any government that tries to oppress or enslave its people. What a great document to have, I am sure that is why many others countries dislike us so much….We HAVE FREEDOM, if we can keep it.

    There are so many people who have been buying and stock piling ammo in my opinion as “A Just In Case” situation. I feel that we are getting close to it, and as crazy as that sounds it also has a bit of truth to it. The administration in office is enslaving us to the point that the workers are working for the have-nots who in my opinion are not going to do much to change that. I am working on an average of 107 days for free to pay for that and I am pretty fed up with it as many other Americans are too. Obama is killing The USA as we know it and making us into a divided nation of socialists!

    I know there are mentally ill people in this country and we need to address that issue too. I think that in some cases the background checks are working to deter the mad-men from getting firearms. The problem with that is “If they want to do harm, they are going to find a way, or any tool of choice if they choose to cause harm” Period! It just seems that in most of the recent tragedies they have chosen guns. But if there were no guns they would have chosen possibly knives, or something else. There needs to be more programs in place to deal with the unstable in our society, and try to tackle that than making the average law abiding gun owner a criminal in the same breath.

    I hope that common sense will prevail but there is never ever a guarantee. I hope that many will get more involved and write to your congressman/woman or state representative and let them know how you feel. http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml Time is not on our side on this one. God Bless The United States of America, and of course The Great State of Texas :)

    S. Pogue
    https://www.facebook.com/MyFellowTexansWhoLoveGuns

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