Kinder, Gentler Army Kills Goat Lab

Goat Lab at Fort Bragg was one of the toughest, most realistic training courses in the US Military. For decades, Special Forces medics trained on goats given combat injuries. It is being ended due to pressure from animal rights activists. The result? Live goats and dead soldiers.

For years, Fort Bragg has shot, blown up and otherwise killed some 300 goats per month to train Army medics for treating wounded soldiers, according to the Fayetteville Observer. Documents show Fort Bragg’s Army Special Operations Command requested up to 3,600 goats last year. Animal activists claim the goats are shot, stabbed, bludgeoned and blown up to simulate the types of injuries those in combat face, according to the newspaper.

But the new law appears to be the end of the practice, which angered animal rights activists. Instead, medics may train on humans wearing “organ suits,” which have simulated human organs, breakable synthetic bones and even bloodlike fluid.

Bookmark the permalink.

16 Responses to Kinder, Gentler Army Kills Goat Lab

  1. Trent says:

    I remember our medics talking about this training. From what I gathered, the training was invaluable. It was the first time they seemed to “get it” and they loved it. A live, bleeding, screaming, kicking goat is (excuse the pun) a different beast than an “organ suits.” It is as close as you can get to the real thing, since it is a real thing that is injured. While I still believe the training standard will be high and the Deltas coming out will be able to do the job, but this could potential cost someone their lives one day. Insane.

    I wonder if this will apply to the goats, chicken, and rabbits used during SERE as well?

  2. Matt says:

    Sooo . . . how do we square Joe Biden’s righteous argument that expansion of government control via gun control legislation is worthwhile if it results “in only saving one life” with this particular action? Oh, does he mean these sorts of things are worthwhile if they result in saving one civilian life? I get it now.

  3. BrunDawg says:

    I’m sure it’s for the Kids…sorry…is this thing on? Test, one, two.

  4. R.D. Walker says:

    In SERE School, I sat on the back of a live goat, grabbed its horns and pulled its head back to expose its neck and another soldier cut its throat with a bayonet. We gutted it, dressed it, cooked it over a fire and ate it. All at Camp MacKall next to Fort Bragg.

    • notamobster says:

      (Possibly) millions of muslims do this very act at the end of Ramadan, here in the US, every year. Not a peep from the animal rights nazi’s.

    • mike says:

      What you describe is a typical, and not excessively cruel, slaughtering procedure. Goat Lab goats would be blessed to die that easily.

  5. Trevor Wilson says:

    I was one of those medics that went to goat lab and it was invaluable. I honestly know I would not have performed as well as I did, (I could have done better) without goat lab. Truely and unequivocally essencial training. I saw how much the veterinarians who were there with the goats cared about them, but they also knew this training was nessesary. I’m ashamed our government didn’t stand up for this training, it will sadly cost human lives. A large part of America needs to grow up, bambi has destroyed our nation.

    • mike says:

      You passed SF Medic course without being able to spell the word ‘necessary’, or ‘truly’, or ‘essential’? Pardon me for doubting you.

    • Ray Davies says:

      I was lucky, I got my Med/Surg training on Humans at Ft Sam. On the other hand I spent my working years in Medical Research and have used plenty of animals (Of almost all species) and I don’t believe I ever saw a researcher mistreat an animal. In fact, there were always some animals we didn’t have the heart to use. I’ve even had lab rats for pets at work, and other researcher’s pigs that were kept for over a year.

      Needless to say, the animals for research or teaching treated with respect, and in some cases, even love.

  6. mike says:

    Before Goat Lab, it was ‘dog lab’ and the POS instructors made the students develop a relationship with the dog before they destroyed the dog and left the soldier to attempt to fix the damage, both to himself and the dog. this was the same era when Army officers ordered military working dogs abandoned to the enemy in Vietnam- the US military, you know- the ones who ‘never leave a man behind’ .
    I paraphrase a decorated ranger medic, who said he believes he may answer to God for what he did in goat Lab, and that he is left with awful memories of the goat that he had cared for and rehabilitated from one after another of a series of injuries , infections, and other insults to the animals survival, only to be called into a room for a test, where he found ‘his’ goat aflame, wounded, not breathing and with pieces of trash/debris in it’s trachea blocking it’s breathing. He also mentioned disrespectful jokes made at the doomed animal’s expense. I personally might be able to accept Goat Lab, if there was some kind of respect for life going on there- but you have leaders, NCO’s with ten years as a MEDIC, laughing and writing graffiti on the weapons that they use on these defenseless doomed animals who were unlucky enough to be born in the USA, a country which doesn’t have the moral courage to annihilate it’s enemies, but wreaks living hell on helpless animals and calls it training.. An excellent place for our young soldiers to mentor. I personally would fail goat lab, and end up in Leavenworth. No amount of technical proficiency is worth sacrificing your soul.

  7. notamobster says:

    So which is it, Mike? Do they anesthetize the goat, or treat it like a soulless serial killer would treat its victim? You seem to be saying whatever works to your advantage to answer, above.

    I don’t support the needless torture of any animal, but if it saved one of my brothers in battle, I’d eradicate the entire species.

    • TN-Cat says:

      Damn, you’re good Nota. I read through that post twice and my brain feels like I watched a hockey game under strobe lights.

      Just a bunch of guys skating around nothing.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <s> <strike> <strong>