West Point think tank attacks, well, us…

This is from an article defining the threat from the right including “anti-federalists”. You know… us.

It says anti-federalists “espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights. Finally, they support civil activism, individual freedoms, and self government. Extremists in the anti-federalist movement direct most their violence against the federal government and its proxies in law enforcement.”

The report also draws a link between the mainstream conservative movement and the violent “far right,” and describes liberals as “future oriented” and conservatives as living in the past.

“While liberal worldviews are future- or progressive -oriented, conservative perspectives are more past-oriented, and in general, are interested in preserving the status quo.” the report says. “The far right represents a more extreme version of conservatism, as its political vision is usually justified by the aspiration to restore or preserve values and practices that are part of the idealized historical heritage of the nation or ethnic community.”

First and foremost, it is damned offensive because it attacks a founding American principal – republicanism – as a threat and potentially violent. Noted anti-federalists include Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams, George Mason and James Monroe. Furthermore, even the federalists at the time of the Founding would be considered ant-federalists by the standards of 2013.

I want to focus on this, however.

“While liberal worldviews are future- or progressive -oriented, conservative perspectives are more past-oriented, and in general, are interested in preserving the status quo.”

This may have been the case in the past, but it is demonstrably false today. A “liberal” today is somebody who defends the 20th-century blue state social model. A “progressive” is now somebody who thinks America is on the wrong path and that we must restore the government regulated, unionized economic model of the 1950s and 1960s. They support government propped up unions, trade restrictions, heavy handed regulation of banking and finance, government control of ground transportation and airlines, government control and subsidies for the media, public and private and a general cradle to grave management of individuals as part of the economy. This is a model that has been falling apart since the 1970s and is in full collapse since the 1990s.

Most of what passes for liberal and progressive thinking today is a reactionary response to economic and social changes the Left doesn’t like. The people who call themselves liberal in the United States today are fighting rearguard actions to save the policies and institutions of an economic system that has been eclipsed by technology, innovation and individual liberty.

We, on the other hand, support a philosophy grounded in individual freedom and limited government in which individuals are able to achieve whatever they are able through technological and economic innovation. We see a future in which people aren’t chained to a 1950s era assembly line but in which the industry of the people, in a hundred thousand corners of America, are able to build an economy that is dynamic and changing and sustainable without the heavy handed controls of the 20th century to which the left demands we return.

The irony is that the authors of this study believe that those demanding a return to the 1950s economy are forward thinkers and those embracing change and innovation and growth are stuck in the past.

Hat tip to Tony for the link.

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14 Responses to West Point think tank attacks, well, us…

  1. notamobster says:

    But, they call it “progressive”!

    They are espousing an economic model which has failed since the mid-late 19th century. Who’s looking at the past? I hate these people.

    One thing they are right about – we are absolutely a threat to their agenda. Our old-school way of thinking created the greatest enemy to their agenda which the world has ever seen. The recent gun control debate and willingness of Americans to go to war for their rights is ABSOLUTELY A DANGER to their agenda.

    They may be viewing it wrong, but at least they recognize the danger of treading upon the people who value American liberty.

  2. Doc says:

    R.D.-Forgive me, but I thought you’d like to see this. Off topic but On Point:


    …ya’ cain’t BUY this kinda’ material…

  3. Burd Dog says:

    I posted the letters (I’m sure y’all have seen them) from the Oregon sheriffs on Facebook and simply said, “interesting.”

    A guy I went to school with 20 years ago replies, “I’m more scared of you people than a felon with a gun. Good luck.”

    Now what the hell did I do or say to provoke this response? These people are insane. I resisted the urge to really speak my mind and replied, I’m not sure as to what “good luck” or “you people” was referencing. I simply think it’s interesting to see Oregon state law enforcement respond to what they perceive to be an end run around the Constitution. That is why my comment on my original post simply said, ‘Interesting.’ “

    • notamobster says:

      I called them “pants-pissing whiners” on one the sites “those people” run and they banned me. 🙂

      They’re emotional, reactionary, simpletons. Don’t bother letting em get to you.

  4. Burd Dog says:

    Exactly! Thanks, Nota. That’s why I didn’t delete his comment…because that’s exactly what they do to us!

    I started to tell him that his lack of fear of a felon with a gun will be the reason I outlive him! 🙂

  5. Stoned Conservative says:

    Interesting, indeed. I spent 22 years in the Army. I could not imagine an officer being part of such statements. What is the matter with the Officer Corps? I ask this question for no Officer I served under could have come to the corrupt conclusions reached at West Point. Not Possible. Their conclusions are deeply disturbing. It is disturbing at a fundemental level. We are peaceful folks who go to work everyday. We pay taxes. We vote our beliefs, not for handouts. We worship our convictions of God. All we ask of other faiths is to let us live in peace with you and if we desire, among you. You Muslims have rejected our overtures, and those of Israel. You have perverted yourselfs. You are defiled by any sane measure. Christians, Jews, Hindus, and almost every other faith have attempted to live in Peace with Muslims. Those who have perveted Our Faith for gain are in no way attractive to us. We have believed that our Army was beyond reproach in its conduct toward the Bill of Rights. That is no longer the case and we must have an accounting of this report. We want the names of every son of a bitch who contributed, approved, or in any other way gave aid to such conclusions. The report is a lie. Come and take them.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      Great comment SC and welcome to the Revo. I would point out that this wasn’t West Point per se. It was a “West Point connected organization”… whatever that is.

      • notamobster says:

        Welcome to The Real Revo SC!!! Welcome home, brother.

        • notamobster says:

          RD – you’re incorrect. It was written BY the Combatting Terrorism Center at West Point (USMA):

          Terrorism Center at West Point Warns: The Danger of American Limited Government Activists and Far RightThe Combating Terrorism Center (CTC) at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point released a study Tuesday warning against American “far right” groups including the “anti-federalist” movement and strong limited government activists.

          Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. Uke?

          • R.D. Walker says:

            It is pretty integrated in, that’s for sure, but the CTC was established with private funds and is organizationally not part of the DoD.

            • notamobster says:

              You know what, the chow hall on most air force bases isn’t organizationally part of the USAF, either. If the USAF allowed them to put out say, fruit which knowingly had e coli bacteria on it, the USAF is just as responsible.

              They released this putrid, steaming pile of crap with the knowledge and acceptance of the USMA and published it on the USMA website.

              That makes them just as guilty.

              If we let the Klan or ISNA put crap out on the Revo, we’d be just as guilty as them.

  6. notamobster says:

    Similarly, if the government hires blackwater or greystone to propagandize the public, or imprison a segment of the populace, the govt is still responsible. Whether the delivery system was technically a part of the govt or not…

  7. Uke says:

    Firstly, I take no responsibility for this horseshit study.

    Secondly, there are civilians at WooPoo that have their own opinions and agendas. One of my old profs was a straight up hippy.

    Third, there is a contingent of cadets that is liberal. Don’t ask me to explain it, but about 20% of cadets (in my estimation) are leftists. My suspicion was because they are elitists aspiring to political life that want military cred.