13 Responses to NY State Stirred Up A Hornet’s Nest With Their Gun Law

1. Jim22 says:

   February 2, 2013 at 5:46 pm

   It begins. It’s not just western New York that’s primed for militias. Why have Americans bought up every gun and every round of ammunition?

   They don’t want a fight but it is the only way to illustrate to the politicians that they are prepared to fight. We all hope that it never comes to that. But it might.

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2. xenicalman says:

   February 2, 2013 at 9:56 pm

   A militia was in that room.
   I hope that the politicians and progressives in that room were smart enough to read between the lines.
   Do you think that fear was engendered?
   Common sense?
   Hopefully they will take that sense to Albany.
   And as Jim22 says, “It begins”.

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   • Jim22 says:

     February 3, 2013 at 7:57 am

     The politicians in that room probably read the crown correctly. Problem is the politicians in that room are not the decision makers. They are the front liners sent out by the decision makers. Fear was engendered but it will have no effect on the decision makers like Governor Cuomo. He knows that the front liners are the only ones who will be in any danger in any action.

     Common sense does not exist at his level.

     He doesn’t realize that he is much closer to the front lines than any of his handlers in Washington DC.

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3. Jim22 says:

   February 3, 2013 at 9:38 am

   The best question of the meeting, the one that should be repeated is this: “Who are the police at war with?”.

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4. R.D. Walker says:

   February 3, 2013 at 9:53 am

   They want us to from militias. They want us to get violent. They want that PR so badly they can taste it. Damn, they want it so bad!

   I hope gun rights advocates aren’t stupid enough to pull some kind of a stupid, Timothy McVeigh stunt. We will have lost the PR battle and it would all be over.

   Resist peacefully.

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5. Uke says:

   February 3, 2013 at 10:49 am

   Like RD, I see these political actions as provocative ones in their very intent. They (those pols) are never going to be successful in rapid disarmament unless they get a massive groundswell of public demand for it. I’m not even talking 50-50 polling. I’m talking 75%, 80%, 90% polling numbers in favor of registration/disarmament.

   That, ladies and gentlemen, will simply never happen here unless that vast majority of people sees a major violent threat from the right, and sees that threat as lawless/undisciplined/premature/illegitimate/etc. Much of this depends on how certain actions are painted by the media, of course, but our best defense against that is to not give them any more ammunition than absolutely necessary.

   They portray us as crazy? Be the manifestation of reason and sanity.
   They portray us as cold and mean? Embody warmth and kindness.
   They portray us as violent? Be the personification of peace.

   It really is our responsibility to go above and beyond the call of duty, in many ways. It’s a bitch being the good guys. The bad guys don’t have to demonstrate much self-restraint, while we do.

   It is only then, at the end of the day, after all possible peaceful means have been exhausted, that you can make your stand and be content that you did everything in your power to avoid it.

   Don’t be idiots. Don’t give them excuses.

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   Now, all that said, it is damn good to see folks standing up for their own rights, as in the video above. Making clear, through apparently non-violent rhetoric, that they will not comply with unlawful decrees. Good for them.

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   • notamobster says:

     February 3, 2013 at 2:41 pm

     Jim & I have both made the same sentiments known, guys. The would-be tyrants are pushing as hard as they can for a violent response. The provocations are there. I have no doubt that this is their intent. That’s why I support non-violent resistance. That’s why I keep trying to sway people against all the talk of revolution or violent insurrection.

     I have never & will never say that such is not an option. It is always an option. It should always remain the VERY LAST option!

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     • R.D. Walker says:

       February 3, 2013 at 2:45 pm

       Only after they have drawn first blood. Frankly, maybe only they have drawn fourth or fifth blood. Then it is justified.

       I am guessing Lincoln breathed a sigh of relief when the Confederates gave him the gift of firing first at Ft. Sumpter.

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6. Carl R Gottstein Jr. says:

   February 3, 2013 at 3:40 pm

   NY Patriots Resist:NO to Cuomos EMERGENCY POWER GRAB!

   http://patriotaction.net/profiles/blogs/ny-patriots-resist-no-to-cuomos-emergency-power-grab

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7. Slaphappypap says:

   February 3, 2013 at 4:01 pm

   Ballot box first always. We don’t want to become Syria or Egypt. It will be ugly and they’re will be no turning back. We are better than that.

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8. Rugerman says:

   February 4, 2013 at 11:16 am

   The problem as I see it is determining when we have reached the point when provocation demands a response. I agree that violent action is the last resort, but in our current environment, it becomes increasingly difficult to ignore the blatant untruths masquerading as news. How does one determine when it is time to fight rather than try to handle things peacefully through the courts?

   It seems increasingly obvious to me that all elected officials, regardless of political affiliation, have determined that they are the rulers and We The People are to be the ruled. At some point, we are merely capitulating to surrender demands on the principle of not giving anyone the excuse to take away what they never had the right to demand in the first place. I have had this conversation with several of my close friends, and there is a great deal of trepidation in everyone’s mind on the matter. Sooner or later, we will be required to hit hard, hit often and hit unexpectedly.

   I find it interesting that on more than one occasion recently, I have gathered with friends or business associates and the conversation inevitably turns to preparing for resistance to tyranny.

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   • notamobster says:

     February 4, 2013 at 12:59 pm

     Scary stuff, indeed. Deciding when enough is enough is something each man must decide on individually. It has become a game of public relations. You have to wait until their is sufficient public demand or you risk not only losing support, but your life. You don’t want to be the lone nutjob at the revolution. All is lost if that happens.

     People clearly feel threatened right now. They are letting their fear be known by rattling and warning. That’s a good thing. Whichever way they winds blow, they will blow us all there, together.

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9. Alec says:

   March 18, 2013 at 5:12 am

   What the New York city politicians like Cuomo have failed to realize is that the entire southern tier of NY State as far east and north as Schoharie and Otsego Counties are included in the cultural region known as Appalachia. Google Appalachia or Appalachian Counties.
   The Appalachian Mountains stretch from Maine to Alabama but the Appalachian cultural region is more specific. In violating the second amendment rights of NY citizens, especially those of the area just mentioned, Cuomo has declared war against Appalachia. This is no small matter. If there is one thing that Appalachian folk have in common from North to South, it is the fact that they don’t take kindly to outsiders (Cuomo) that attempt to take away their rights and freedom.

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