Another Great Idea From Homeland Security

UAV’s in Texas. They are FLIR equipped, too. But there’s no way they could ever be armed, right? Right?

Those crosshairs don’t mean a thing. Do they?

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17 Responses to Another Great Idea From Homeland Security

  1. notamobster says:

    I wouldn’t get worked up about the crosshairs. The alltv module has that (in one form or another) on all of them. I’m more concerned with the privacy implications than the weaponization capabilties.

    If the ever start killing folks with em, it’ll be open season. Invading their privacy, however, is much more insidious, and more readily tolerated by a disinterested populace.

  2. R.D. Walker says:

    Why is this worse than manned helicopters? You have no expectation of privacy when you are outdoors and you never have.

    I suppose people are worried because it is stealthier than big ol’ manned helicopters.

    I dunno. We demand that right to use our cameras on our devices wherever we want. I can’t see why the police can’t too.

    If they arm them, however, I am going to start getting nervous.

    I find what is in the post below this one to be about a thousand times more worrisome.

  3. Bman says:

    Well, when the drones start hovering in front of your windows, peeping into your living room as you roll a joint (if you are of that behavior, say), then there will be problems.

  4. Bman says:

    Who’s to say that someday, everybody will have their own assigned drones. Everytime you walk outside, your own personal drone will be right their, following you every where you go. And, since you don’t have any protection of privacy, there is nothing you can do about it.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      If the “drone” is some guy I hire for minimum wage and equip with video recorder, that can already legally happen.

      In any case, yeah, the technology is getting pretty intrusive.

  5. notamobster says:

    I was thinking along the lines of Bman’s complaint. Looking in your windows, watching what you do on private property. Using drones to see what those crazy religious nuts are doing back in the woods, type of thing. Not “Hey, what’s the guy in the public space doing.”.

    You’re absolutely correct, there is zero expectation of privacy in a public space. In my home or concealed yard? Different animal.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      They have had that capability for decades. I suppose the difference is that it used to be we knew we were being watched because helicopters are big and noisy and we wouldn’t be watched long because they were expensive as all hell.

      I think the problem here is that it is small, quiet and cheap. That changes the deal between the watched and the watchee.

      So what? If the missus and I get crazy and make the beast with two backs on a blanket out in a corn field some night we need to check for drones so video of us doesn’t turn up on the Internet? That isn’t right.

      • notamobster says:

        Sneak n peek’s and fishing expiditions concern me. Where traditionally, the cops would need a warrant, they may now be encouraged (by ease of application) to sneak in and have a look, instead of going through the Constitutionally mandated process of seeking a search warrant.

        It’s not a huge deal. I’m not saying we should ban drones. I just see how it could be abused, and inasmuch, how citizens could be abused.

        • R.D. Walker says:

          Well, if the technology gets too good, there will have to be changes. The good news is that I think that privacy is a rare area in the US that the left and right can agree on. Most Americans oppose this shit.

          I don’t think we are there yet, however. It is still burdensome to run long term surveillance.

  6. R.D. Walker says:

    The problem, of course, is when drones are the size of mosquitos and swarms of them can follow anyone, anywhere without the knowledge of the person being tracked. It isn’t outside the realm of possibility in our lifetimes.

    That said, I am not too worried about big, noisy, expensive, limited range toy helicopters.