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  1. SemperFi says:

    88? I was playing this just last week while waiting at the DMV!

    Great time killer!

  2. BaconNeggs says:

    >>The issue is not the president. The issue is that you guys voted for this president. And that, and if you don’t understand what’s wrong with that now, then the problem is the American people, and not the American president.<<


    http://www.hughhewitt.com/transcripts.aspx?id=0b2d165a-0873-4183-a004-11cb385f8b88

  3. TN_Cat says:

    Is it just me or does anyone else feel like this Libya no fly is a farce. Maybe it’s all the big kudos going out to Cameron by the media or maybe because I don’t trust a single one of these asswipes as far as I can spit. Just have this gut feeling the MB is going to end up with most of the control.

    Now if The Saudis are put in this position we will know there is something going on a very major scale and our “leaders” are up to their armpits in on this.

  4. Locke n Load says:

    I’m not sure the MB has much of a presence therre TN. MB is Shia and Libya is largely Sunni. AlQ might be the ones trying to fill the vacuum…

  5. Locke n Load says:

    Not surprisingly, Disco Bill and Lorraine cut a wide swath thru the mall on their way to the Sears Portrait Studio…

  6. TN_Cat says:

    Great pic LNL. Too funny

    Re: MB in Libya
    I think they are everywhere at this point.
    http://europenews.dk/en/node/41072

  7. Air Force Brat says:

    I love the bird !!!

  8. Bman says:

    The bird is a Blue Fronted Amazon. Its in its youth stages still. I used to have one, Archie. They are a royal pain in the ass. Oh…and they only live for about 60-70 years.

  9. notamobster says:

    They are everywhere LNL. They are crossing sectarian boundaries for the greater jihad against the infidels.

  10. sortahwitte says:

    That’s a handy-sized weapon. It would fit under the front seat in my Exploder.

  11. slinger says:

    Interesting chart explaining radiation levels:

    http://xkcd.com/radiation/

  12. notamobster says:

    sorta: handy-sized weapon? The bird or the AK? :-)

  13. notamobster says:

    slinger: GREAT CHART!

    disclaimer at the bottom:

    “If you’re basing radiation response on an internet png graphic when things go wrong, you have no one to blame but yourself.”

    Love it! :-)

  14. sortahwitte says:

    Nota. The AK. Birds and I have a mutual distaste. I try to shoot them and they try to crap on my head. At this point, the score is even.

  15. Air Force Brat says:

    Never had a bird crap on my head, but one did crap on my shoulder several years ago. My then-coworkers got a big kick out of it.

    But I digress. :)

  16. sortahwitte says:

    I was a Marine in San Diego. Picture millions of seagulls. Picture those birds in bombing runs at Marines. Picture those same birds avoiding the swabbies in their white uniforms. It’s not paranoia if it’s true. Conspiracy. F*ckin’ birds.

  17. Charlottean says:

    15 years ago, I was talking to a very attractive woman on break from work. All a sudden, a seagull took a dump on my head and it run down the front of my face. The girl suddenly started to laugh then turned green and puked before running off. Never forget that.

  18. jacksonsdad says:

    When I was a kid my dad took us to a marina just to check out the boats and docks and we wound up going for a short free ride with a charitable captain. Walking back to the car we saw this huge white(ish) mess on the windsheild. We think it was pelican shit but it could have possibly been a crane. Whatever it was it had to have been a big mother…..

    It looked like someone had taken a grapefruit size ball of ice cream and beaned the windsheild at point blank range. Half of the ball was still intact at the center of the impact zone and the shit thoroughly covered most of the rest of the windsheild with slightly lesser coverage (splatters and splotches) around the perimeter.

    I’ve always wondered what that must have sounded like and and how disgusting it would be to get nailed by a shit bomb of that magnitude. Judging by the half-ball of shit that was left intact I’d say that ball had at least a 2-3 inch radius. Yes… RADIUS… meaning a 4-6 inch diameter. I mean, the car was un-friggin’-driveable. That’s one monster turd.

    My dad had to get the guys who worked at the marina to fill up a 5 gallon bucket of water just so we could get it cleaned up enough to make it to the nearest car wash… I shit you not.;-)

    I guess it’s true… there really is “No such thing as a free ride”. We sure as hell paid for that one! It was kinda funny but completely disgusting.

  19. vanagram says:

    My daughter has a full blown bird phobia; they freak her out. And I don’t mean in ‘silly 10 year old girl’ mode — I mean in psychotic raving nut job I-think-I-need-to-be-institutionalized-mode.

    Needless to say, she did not appreciate me filling her hoodie with french fries as we left the beachside cafe….she was by far the most popular person on the beach with the seagulls and she had no idea why….

    And yes, I am saving up for her therapy….

  20. DarthJay says:

    We were on vacation once and we were feeding french fries to the seagulls – we asked my wife is she was going to join in on the fun and she said that she, “would not waste her food on those flying rats” — I kid you not that about 2 seconds later one pooped on her head. Priceless.

  21. SemperFi says:

    I can remember back at Cherry Point when they still sent an entire battery to the rifle range to “make the training faster.” Imagine a line of 150 shooters at rapid fire on the 200 yard line, just waiting for the commence firing horn when a seagull flies into the down range area in front of the pits.

    There was no hope for that bird and we all got thrown off the range for the summer.

    They don’t send entire units there anymore after that.

    Such was the life…

  22. notamobster says:

    While in tech school, a young Airman named Tim Cassim (sorry buddy) was having the worst day of his life. He was a complete wreck by the time we got back to the squadron (2nd shift school). We all stopped in the smoking area and he said “fuck it, I’m going to bed. At least nothing else bad can happen to me today.”

    Almost immediately, a bird shit all over his head. Being typical sympathetic young men, we all laughed our asses off and poked fun at him.

  23. Air Force Brat says:

    Pigeons are the most sadistic birds on the planet. I firmly believe that some of them deliberately gorge themselves for days, just to have a bigger “payload” to drop on the unsuspecting target.

  24. sortahwitte says:

    I have some friends of asian heritage. They eat pigeons. As good people, they don’t serve them to me. Pigeon (n.) 5 pounds of sh*t surrounded by 1 pound of feathers.

  25. R. D. Walker says:

    As a kid, my dad used to shoot pigeons and sell them in town for 25 cents. Folks liked to eat them then. This would have been in the 50s in Iowa.

    By the time I was a kid in Iowa, I was still shooting them with a pellet gun in that same town, but I would leave them for the cats.

  26. R. D. Walker says:

    Turtles like pigeon.

  27. Jim22 says:

    Interesting little video from the Japanese Coast Guard of one of their ships encountering the tsunami while at sea.

    http://news.yahoo.com/video#video=24583397

  28. R.D. Walker says:

    Have any of the rest of you experienced intermittent inability to connect to the site today?

    • notamobster says:

      Yes, but my wife downloaded a redirecting spyware file, also.

      freeze.com

      and for some reason Norton 360 doesn’t recognize and sequester it. What a pain in the ass.

  29. locke n load says:

    Just got back into the states. for the last 30 minutes it’s been off and on. odd

  30. Air Force Brat says:

    R.D. — yes, twice. Got out, manually typed the URL, and was able to get here just fine.

  31. Air Force Brat says:

    Also, the “Recent Comments” sidebar doesn’t show that I commented on the “Marxism in America” thread. Yet, when I manually click on the thread, there I am, big as life. Every other comment I’ve made recently shows up in the sidebar; that’s the only one that doesn’t.

  32. R.D. Walker says:

    AFB: It shows up on my screen and on my tools. Are you sure?

  33. Air Force Brat says:

    Absolutely. However, after I logged off completely for a while and did some errands, when I got back online, everything was there.

    Weird.

  34. R.D. Walker says:

    How in the hell was country not cool when I was a kid? Waylon oozes cool in this video. Nobody is cooler than Johnny Cash. And check out that babe on keyboard. Schwing!!

    If they could capture a faction of the cool coming off this vid, they could cool that Japanese reactor in five minutes.

  35. R.D. Walker says:

    Damn, that’s Jessi Colter on the keys! Didn’t even recognize her with all that hair.

  36. sortahwitte says:

    Mmmmmmmmm. Jessi Colter then.

    Mmmmmmmmm. Jessi Colter now.

  37. locke n load says:

    ‘m starting to think you’ve raided my playlist. This is on daily rotation in my rig. Outstanding tune.

    Seriously, you need to discover the Outlaw Cuntry channel on XM. if you think this cool has evaporated you haven’t heard whats going on in the underground…

  38. Locke n Load says:

    I’m not sure the MB has much of a presence therre TN. MB is Shia and Libya is largely Sunni. AlQ might be the ones trying to fill the vacuumhttp://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212003

    hmmmmm

  39. Locke n Load says:

    Loved that Waylon video RD. thats another one on my rig’s playlist.

    On the other hand this one is more to my mood tonight. Too much shit going on right now. I need a pissed off nonsense tune every now and then… remember this?

  40. BaconNeggs says:

    Canadian Pilot Heroes “show Canadian vaules” to the world and abort bombing mission in Libya.

    Or so the story goes.


    http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110322/canadian-cf-18s-operation-odyssey-dawn-libya-110322/20110322/?hub=CalgaryHome

  41. BaconNeggs says:

    Now that Hillary has ansered the phone at 3am she finds things arent going to her script.

    Hillary to Gad-daffy – Just make it easy for everyone, we have bombed you, so just go.

    Gad-Daffy – Eff you Hillary, why dont you come and make me. (hahaha)

    I know this is serious and I shouldnt laugh but…


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_libya

  42. sortahwitte says:

    Remember madelyn albright, mr. hillary’s sec of state? Before they turned the F-117s loose on Kosovo, she whined “why do we have these marvelous toys if we can’t use them?” Must be something in the water at foggy bottom.

  43. R.D. Walker says:

    Why the Internet was invented.

  44. Locke n Load says:

    Now yer gonna get Van all amped up,,,

  45. slaphappypap says:

    Tom and Dan are beyond the stage of bored. Just saying.

  46. TN_Cat says:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/us/25madonna.html?_r=1&hp

    This story is just so fucking typical when a group of leftists come up with a plan.

    Let’s build a 15 million dollar school in Africa to teach 400 girls. What could go wrong?

  47. R.D. Walker says:

    I am starting to come around to the Truther thing. I mean, the official story just doesn’t make sense. It is clear that what really happened is that Bush, during his first eight months in office decided to orchestrate the whole thing as a justification to to spend tens of billions to invade Afghanistan and get nothing in return.

    Right after he was inaugurated, Bush and Cheney started interviewing co-conspirators. They focused on people in the building demolition business. They were going to need at least a hundred of these folks to sneak into buildings at night, cut into walls and plant thousands of wired explosive charges. So they started interviewing demo experts. They would tell them that they wanted to engage in the greatest treason and mass murder in history and would ask them if they were interested in getting involved. If they said no, they swore them to secrecy and sent them on their way.

    The rest got busy. They had to sneak into the World Trade Center at night and plant thousands of charges with nobody in security, maintenance or the building tenants noticing. It was a big job and hard sneaking whole pallets of explosives past security and janitorial staff.

    Of course they still had to fly remote control planes into the building. We all saw that. Some on the team suggested that flying planes into the buildings would be sufficient justification for going to war in Afghanistan. Bush said “no way.” Turning the buildings into flaming hulks isn’t enough justification for a kinetic military action. The buildings have to fall down. The plan won’t work if the buildings don’t fall down. So they got busy planting thousands and thousands of explosive charges on every floor without being detected by anyone.

    You’d think that would be enough but Bush knew it wouldn’t be. Planes flying into the the Twin Towers wouldn’t be enough. The buildings falling down wouldn’t be enough. Americans would balk.

    It turns out he was right. After the Twin Towers fell down, Americans said, “We are mad, but not mad enough to invade Afghanistan. Even the planes crashing into the Pentagon and the field in Pennsylvania don’t make us mad enough to go to war in Afghanistan.”

    But Bush and Cheney had an ace of their sleeves. They had also planted explosives in Building 7. On the evening of 9/11, they blew up Building 7. They knew there was a lot of risk planting explosives in a building not hit by planes but they knew that Americans would see Building 7 as a breaking point.

    They were right. When Dick Cheney pushed the button bringing down Building 7, a cry of anguish rose up around America! “My God! The bastards have blown up Building 7! Now we must invade Afghanistan AND Iraq.”

    It was a work of genius. Bush knew that Americans loved Building 7 with all of their hearts. Building 7 was part of the American psyche. School children learn about Building 7 starting in Kidergarten. Americans would be willing to accept the destruction of multiple plane loads of people, the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. It was unthinkable for Americans coast to coast to contemplate the destruction, several hours later, of the fully evacuated Building 7. The fall of Building 7 awakened a sleeping giant.

    Yes, 9/11 was quite an successful operation. It had everything. Thousands of explosive charges sneaked into active office space in a high security building and planted inside sealed walls with no one being the wiser. The kidnapping of airline passengers, the disposal of them and their planes and replacing their planes with duplicate remote control drone aircraft. In fact, it was the greatest caper in human history.

    I guess they used up all that ninja, secret agent skill, however. Two years later they were completely unable to plant a few nerve agent artillery shells out in some remote desert base in Iraq in order to frame Saddam with chemical weapons. That was a conspiracy that was just too complicated.

  48. slaphappypap says:

    You forgot about the secret waste management company that stole metal from Ground Zero. The news said it was some sort of “Italian-American sub-culture.” Hmmmmmm. I smell the CIA all over that one.

  49. notamobster says:

    RD: You had me at “Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky couldn’t keep a conspiracy of two a secret”.

    I love this. It deserves it’s own piece.

  50. notamobster says:

    I actually heard all of this today:

    “That’s my union brother…I didn’t see shit.”

    “He said he was gonna kill me…I wanna talk to my union rep”

    “gonna kill him” those are some heavy words…I’m an incredibly busy man…”

  51. Locke n Load says:

    This story is going to be a HUGE mess for BATF, ICE, Justice, etc. Sorry but no time to flesh it out for you.
    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/texas-on-the-potomac/2011/03/obama-says-he-didnt-inform-mexico-of-u-s-gun-smuggling-operation-because-he-didnt-know-about-it/

    EVERY political party in Mexico demanded our Ambassador be recalled. Not a peep in the press as he’s been called back to the states. They tried to blame it on WikiLeak embarrassments but nuh huh. He was kicked out of Mexico,lol.

  52. Locke n Load says:

    Heres something right up your alley Nota. Via Sweetness.
    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/doj-sues-on-behalf-of-muslim-teacher

    • notamobster says:

      Yeah, I got that from a friend in my email. I don’t even know what to say, that’s why I never posted it.

  53. slaphappypap says:

    I tend to watch “Real Time with Bill Maher every Friday. Just to see what the lefty’s are saying. My question is: Is David Brooks from the New York Times a total *ussy or what? Is he a conservative or is he protecting his job at a liberal think tank? He said said that some us might be racist. Thanks for sticking up for us David. Your a shining star in the fastest loser newspaper on the planet.

    • R.D. Walker says:

      I was just looking through some of my diving photos from Guam and saw this. I always thought it was pretty funny. Click to enlarge.

  54. TN_Cat says:

    Great pic. The look on that fish reminds me of my dog when he knows he did something wrong and is waiting for you to find out what it is.

    You know the look: “shit, why did I chew that shoe?”

    • R.D. Walker says:

      Does your dog ever look like this? Click to enlarge.

      Yes, my camera had a zoom function. That guy is the pit bull of the sea.

  55. TN_Cat says:

    That thing is hideous.

  56. sortahwitte says:

    I think he has a happy little smile. Thinking at the same time: “come a little closer…..”

  57. TN_Cat says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/26/media-matters-developing-opposition-research-on-fox-has-list-of-every-single-person-at-network/

    This post above from TDC regarding Media Matters attack on Fox news has one thing really wrong with it. Media Matters claims to have a list of every single Fox news employee. The only way that I know that is possible is through IRS records. The IRS is not allowed to release any information u less required by a court order, and then only to very specific departments that are not allowed to share with other departments unless under court order.

    My question is, how did they get this information?

  58. slaphappypap says:

    Dick Cheney locks reporter in a closet at Democratic Fundraiser.

    Oops. I mean Joe Biden. From Mr. Matt Drudge:

    http://www.drudgereport.com//flash7.html

  59. R.D. Walker says:

    Nota: I pulled the post on Veena Malik since it was pretty much a straight up duplicate.

    http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=42579

  60. notamobster says:

    Yeah, I saw that on the dashboard. My bad. I saw the title yesterday, intended to read it, but for some reason, I never did.

  61. R.D. Walker says:

    No problem. I am actually proud of how so little gets past us here.

  62. notamobster says:

    ;-)

  63. Jim22 says:

    LnL,

    The rodeo cow should have put you in a better mood. Here’s Ray Wylie Hubbard singing a song written by Larry McMurtry’s communist son. Choctaw Bingo.

  64. locke n load says:

    I don’t even know where to start with that tune Jim,lol. Damn near everything mentioned is familiar,lol. The whole song revolves around us69 which I travel frequently. I know it like the back of my hand. Loved the lines about the ‘asian bride’ and the SKS, roflmao. Tell ya what, this song absolutely NAILS the 69 corridor. Unbelievable.

    Coincidentally I was parked on the side of 69 last night with a blown clutch. Turns out it was the input shaft from the tranny that snapped and took out the whole drive line. just what I fuckin needed. I won’t let it get in the way of getting home for my girl but DAMN I din’t need this on top of the hospital bills. o top it off my Kansas got whooped. Whooped good. I half expect the hotel I’m stuck in in Tulsa to catch fire tonight

  65. notamobster says:

    lnl: those upsets are killing my bracket. I picked Kansas to win it all!

  66. Locke n Load says:

    Gee. Only $2500 to repair the trans and clutch. What a bargain. And here i thought it was going to be expensive. It won’t in ANY way complicate the surgery bills coming my way, arrrrrrgh.
    I’m outta here. Wisc and back home by wed eve or bust.

  67. Jim22 says:

    Prayers for your little girl, Steve.

  68. Locke n Load says:

    Thanks Jim, I trust she’s in good hands.

  69. Locke n Load says:

    I wonder if this cretin costs us more as a welfare recipient or federal prisoner?

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/bk-brawler-told-cops-real-whopper-430982

  70. R.D. Walker says:

    If you don’t like the Friday Night Hit Parade, maybe this is for you. 64 million hits on YouTube. Apparently this is what modern pop music looks like.

    See? Now don’t you feel bad about hacking on the Starland Vocal Band?

  71. Bman says:

    This is from one of thoes “Kids Pop” CD’s that you see advertised on saturday afternoons, right?

  72. R.D. Walker says:

    No, evidently this is the hottest thing in pop music right now.

    As far as I am concerned, it might as will be the hottest thing in Madagascar, that is how visible it is to me. But for the Wide World of Web, I would never have known about it.

  73. Uke says:

    Modern pop sucks. No surprises there. It’s been steadily degenerating and has probably now hit a point that can’t be truly exceeded in horrific-ness.

    Unless Bieber and this chick end up breeding. Then we’d witness the birth of the Anti… something.

  74. Locke n Load says:

    I loudly maintain, before the wife and daughters, that Bieber will turn out to be gay. Causes quite a ruckus :)

  75. Uke says:

    THIS, on the other hand… FAR cooler:

    BigDog is the alpha male of the Boston Dynamics robots. It is a rough-terrain robot that walks, runs, climbs and carries heavy loads. BigDog is powered by an engine that drives a hydraulic actuation system. BigDog has four legs that are articulated like an animal’s, with compliant elements to absorb shock and recycle energy from one step to the next. BigDog is the size of a large dog or small mule; about 3 feet long, 2.5 feet tall and weighs 240 lbs.

  76. TN_Cat says:

    RD
    That kid is not even a singer. Her mother paid a couple grand to have this produced for Utube. It went viral because all the other idiot kids hated it so much they were even threatening this girl.

  77. R.D. Walker says:

    Very cool Uke, but just so you know we are on top of shit here, we covered that in the years BU (Before Uke)

    http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=14329

    Aren’t you over due for a front page post?

  78. Uke says:

    Arg, called out by RD for a repost and publishing delinquency in the same breath. It buuuurrrnnnssss…! ;)

    As a matter of fact, I’ve actually been working on something offline to publish on here, at least in excerpted form. We’ll see if it turns out decent enough.

  79. R.D. Walker says:

    (Rubbing hands together) “Good. Good.”

  80. R.D. Walker says:

    Here is the antidote to that Rebecca Black video in the struggle for the pop cultural soul of American youth. Enjoy.

  81. TN_Cat says:

    That was enjoyable RD! Real kids having real fun. Except the mountains, it could have shot right here in my town.

  82. sortahwitte says:

    Very cool! I didn’t see any purple hair or 3 inch nose rings. Just young people being young.

  83. notamobster says:

    Uke: Can’t wait, Sir!

  84. Locke n Load says:

    ok all, I’m likely to vanish for a while again. I have urgent business at home and don’t imagine there will be much BS time for the next week or so. As some of you no doubt caught, one of my girls is going in for surgery Thurs morning and I’m heading home as fast as I can to be there for her. While the actual culprit isn’t exactly established, Doc says its probably a very large mesenteric cyst and that while rare, they’re usually not excessively problematic. We all have our fingers crossed and trust in the surgeon. All s/b well. Talk at ya when things get taken care of.

  85. BaconNeggs says:

    FACT CHECK: How Obama’s Libya claims fit the facts

    AP – President Barack Obama delivers his address on Libya at the National Defense University in Washington, …

    Calvin Woodward And Richard Lardner, Associated Press – Tue Mar 29, 3:07 am ET

    WASHINGTON – There may be less than meets the eye to President Barack Obama’s statements Monday night that NATO is taking over from the U.S. in Libya and that U.S. action is limited to defending people under attack there by Moammar Gadhafi’s forces.

    In transferring command and control to NATO, the U.S. is turning the reins over to an organization dominated by the U.S., both militarily and politically. In essence, the U.S. runs the show that is taking over running the show.

    And the rapid advance of rebels in recent days strongly suggests they are not merely benefiting from military aid in a defensive crouch, but rather using the multinational force in some fashion — coordinated or not — to advance an offensive.

    Here is a look at some of Obama’s assertions in his address to the nation Monday, and how they compare with the facts:

    ___

    OBAMA: “Our most effective alliance, NATO, has taken command of the enforcement of the arms embargo and no-fly zone. … Going forward, the lead in enforcing the no-fly zone and protecting civilians on the ground will transition to our allies and partners, and I am fully confident that our coalition will keep the pressure on Gadhafi’s remaining forces. In that effort, the United States will play a supporting role.”

    THE FACTS: As by far the pre-eminent player in NATO, and a nation historically reluctant to put its forces under operational foreign command, the United States will not be taking a back seat in the campaign even as its profile diminishes for public consumption.

    NATO partners are bringing more into the fight. But the same “unique capabilities” that made the U.S. the inevitable leader out of the gate will continue to be in demand. They include a range of attack aircraft, refueling tankers that can keep aircraft airborne for lengthy periods, surveillance aircraft that can detect when Libyans even try to get a plane airborne, and, as Obama said, planes loaded with electronic gear that can gather intelligence or jam enemy communications and radars.

    The United States supplies 22 percent of NATO’s budget, almost as much as the next largest contributors — Britain and France — combined. A Canadian three-star general was selected to be in charge of all NATO operations in Libya. His boss, the commander of NATO’s Allied Joint Force Command Naples, is an American admiral, and the admiral’s boss is the supreme allied commander Europe, a post always held by an American.

    ___

    OBAMA: “Our military mission is narrowly focused on saving lives.”

    THE FACTS: Even as the U.S. steps back as the nominal leader, reduces some assets and fires a declining number of cruise missiles, the scope of the mission appears to be expanding and the end game remains unclear.

    Despite insistences that the operation is only to protect civilians, the airstrikes now are undeniably helping the rebels to advance. U.S. officials acknowledge that the effect of air attacks on Gadhafi’s forces — and on the supply and communications links that support them — is useful if not crucial to the rebels. “Clearly they’re achieving a benefit from the actions that we’re taking,” Navy Vice Adm. William Gortney, staff director for the Joint Chiefs, said Monday.

    The Pentagon has been turning to air power of a kind more useful than high-flying bombers in engaging Libyan ground forces. So far these have included low-flying Air Force AC-130 and A-10 attack aircraft, and the Pentagon is considering adding armed drones and helicopters.

    Obama said “we continue to pursue the broader goal of a Libya that belongs not to a dictator, but to its people,” but spoke of achieving that through diplomacy and political pressure, not force of U.S. arms.

    ___

    OBAMA: Seeking to justify military intervention, the president said the U.S. has “an important strategic interest in preventing Gadhafi from overrunning those who oppose him. A massacre would have driven thousands of additional refugees across Libya’s borders, putting enormous strains on the peaceful — yet fragile — transitions in Egypt and Tunisia.” He added: “I am convinced that a failure to act in Libya would have carried a far greater price for America.”

    THE FACTS: Obama did not wait to make that case to Congress, despite his past statements that presidents should get congressional authorization before taking the country to war, absent a threat to the nation that cannot wait.

    “The president does not have the power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,” he told The Boston Globe in 2007 in his presidential campaign. “History has shown us time and again … that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the legislative branch.”

    Obama’s defense secretary, Robert Gates, said Sunday that the crisis in Libya “was not a vital national interest to the United States, but it was an interest.”

    ___

    OBAMA: “And tonight, I can report that we have stopped Gadhafi’s deadly advance.”

    THE FACTS: The weeklong international barrage has disabled Libya’s air defenses, communications networks and supply chains. But Gadhafi’s ground forces remain a potent threat to the rebels and civilians, according to U.S. military officials.

    Army Gen. Carter Ham, the top American officer overseeing the mission, told The New York Times on Monday that “the regime still overmatches opposition forces militarily. The regime possesses the capability to roll them back very quickly. Coalition air power is the major reason that has not happened.”

    Only small numbers of Gadhafi’s troops have defected to the opposition, Ham said.

    At the Pentagon, Vice Adm. William Gortney, staff director for the Joint Chiefs, said the rebels are not well organized. “It is not a very robust organization,” he said. “So any gain that they make is tenuous based on that.”

    ___

    OBAMA: “Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different. And as president, I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.”

    THE FACTS: Mass violence against civilians has also been escalating elsewhere, without any U.S. military intervention anticipated.

    More than 1 million people have fled the Ivory Coast, where the U.N. says forces loyal to the incumbent leader, Laurent Gbagbo, have used heavy weapons against the population and more than 460 killings have been confirmed of supporters of the internationally recognized president, Alassane Ouattara.

    The Obama administration says Gbagbo and Gadhafi have both lost their legitimacy to rule. But only one is under attack from the U.S.

    Presidents typically pick their fights according to the crisis and circumstances at hand, not any consistent doctrine about when to use force in one place and not another. They have been criticized for doing so — by Obama himself.

    In his pre-presidential book “The Audacity of Hope,” Obama said the U.S. will lack international legitimacy if it intervenes militarily “without a well-articulated strategy that the public supports and the world understands.”

    He questioned: “Why invade Iraq and not North Korea or Burma? Why intervene in Bosnia and not Darfur?”

    Now, such questions are coming at him.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Jim Drinkard and Robert Burns contributed to this report.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110329/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_libya_fact_check

  86. BaconNeggs says:

    After the riots, a portrait of a Fortnum & Mason’s invader lunching at his castle
    By Sam Greenhill and Ryan Kisiel
    Last updated at 10:29 AM on 29th March 2011

    To the descendant of a baronet, who grew up in a castle, the splendour of Fortnum & Mason must have seemed like a home from home.
    But unfortunately for Adam Ramsay, the police did not see it that way and arrested him for aggravated trespass and criminal damage.
    Yesterday, the young aristocrat was ruminating on his night in a police cell alongside other protesters who had stormed the luxury Piccadilly grocer.

    Privilege: Adam Ramsay having lunch at the castle before he went on to hold a sit in in
    Fortnum and Masons on Saturday

    However, unlike most of his fellow activists campaigning against the cuts to public services, Ramsay, 25, hails from a remarkably privileged background.
    He comes from a long line of Ramsay baronets starting in 1666 and ending with the 12th baronet who died in 1986.

    The family seat is Bamff House – described by them as a ‘small castle’ – set in a stunning 1,300-acre estate in East Perthshire, Scotland.
    The magnificent pile boasts more than 15 rooms and an ancient tower, with views stretching over hills, fields and woods that have been owned by the Ramsay family since 1232.

    Ramsay’s pile: Bamff House boasts more than 15 rooms and an ancient tower, with views stretching over hills, fields and woods that have been owned by the Ramsay family since 1232
    Wild boars roam the estate and, in the pheasant season, the Ramsays offer guests the chance to go shooting. But despite their aristocratic lineage, they may have more reason than some to oppose government cuts – for they recently received a £40,000 gift from the taxpayer to fund a new boiler at the castle.

    Yesterday, Ramsay came under fire from other activists who mocked him over the grant, which was paid by an arm of the Scottish government.
    He responded on social networking website Twitter, claiming the public money had been a ‘renewable energy grant for the farm’.
    Ramsay – whose family motto is ‘Ora et Labora’, which means ‘Pray and Work’ – also wrote a long internet post describing how he was arrested following the occupation of Fortnum & Mason.

    Clean up: Workmen scrub the windows at Fortnum’s after the protests

    Ramsay spent the night in a cell at Ilford police station before being charged the next morning with aggravated trespass. He said the criminal damage allegation was dropped.

    Since leaving Edinburgh University, he has worked for a student campaigning network called People & Planet, based in Oxford, as its activism, volunteering and events manager. Last night, several messages were posted under Ramsay’s blog by readers mocking his background.
    One of them pretended to be his mother, writing: ‘Adam darling, We’ve got no caviar left and the staff have taken the day orf… please be a dear and pick some beluga up when you and your Uni chums pop into Fortnums… Mwah, mwah, Mumsy.’ Ramsay was released on police bail and is due to face Westminster magistrates in May.
    Responding to a request for comment, last night he sent the Mail a message saying: ‘I think people with all kinds of backgrounds are starting to see that these cuts threaten to undermine our economy and ruin people’s lives.’

    Meanwhile, it emerged last night that the founder of UK Uncut – the protest group that arranged the invasion of Fortnum & Mason – makes taxpayer-funded films for the BBC.
    Thom Costello, a 22-year-old Oxford graduate, works as an assistant producer for CTVC, a television production company that has worked for the BBC’s One Show and Newsnight.
    Yesterday Mr Costello said: ‘I was not involved in organising the occupation of Fortnum & Mason’s and I was neither inside nor outside Fortnum & Mason on Saturday.

    ‘In fact, I was in a pub having a drink with a friend whilst the sit-in at the shop took place.’
    His father Martin, 53, who runs a theatre in Catford, South London, said: ‘He would not organise anything like that.
    ‘To say he is the mastermind is inaccurate. It’s ridiculous.’


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370966/TUC-anti-cuts-London-march-Fortnum-Masons-invader-Adam-Ramsay.html

  87. Air Force Brat says:

    LnL, I and all Revoistas will be offering many many prayers for your daughter. Please be safe driving.

  88. Locke n Load says:

    Thanks AFB. Surgery is over and it turned out far different than we’d expected. Unfortunately not for the better. We’re waiting for biopsy results now while she recovers in the hospital. Could be a few days as the laproscopy had to be abandoned immediately after they determined what they were looking at and a damn large incision took its place. The girl is SORE as hell and worse, now missing an ovary. At 7. Not fucking fair.
    Anyway, thanks for the prayers. I’m gonna be AWOL for a bit as I do what I can to help around here.

  89. TN_Cat says:

    So sorry to hear LNL. You daughter and family are in our thoughts and prayers.

  90. sortahwitte says:

    LnL it’s not fair and I can’t find the right words to say. Just know that Sue and I are lifting up your precious daughter, the rest of the family and you up to God. Only in Him will you find the rest and the strength to lead your family in hard times such as these. Love, your brother.

  91. R.D. Walker says:

    Amen Sorta.

  92. notamobster says:

    I am so sorry to hear that, Steve. I’ll be praying for you all.

  93. Bman says:

    My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours LnL. God Bless

  94. R.D. Walker says:

    My stepmother died tonight. She and my father were together 35 years.

    And so it goes…

  95. notamobster says:

    RD… My prayers for your family tonight, Sir.

  96. TN_Cat says:

    Sorry for your loss RD.

  97. R.D. Walker says:

    She had been quite ill for a while. It wasn’t a shock. My father has been caring for her for some time. Suddenly he will have a lot of time on his hands to think about things. It will be a big change for him.

    Just another day on this particular trip around the sun, huh?

  98. Locke n Load says:

    So, so sorry to hear that RD. Hope your father has all the support around him he needs to cope. Life is so fragile and yet we all take it for granted…

    Thanks to all of you for your concern and prayers for my girl. She ought to be coming home tomorrow and biopsy results could take a week. The surgeon is top notch, the facility outstanding, and the care better than any I remember. She’s in good hands.

  99. Air Force Brat says:

    R.D., please accept my condolences. Prayers go out for your father — he has great support in you and the rest of the family.

    No matter how expected a death is, there’s still really no preparing for it. Best to you both.

  100. BaconNeggs says:

    Tsunami dog found at sea after floating for 3 weeks – your cuddly warm story of the day. Hahaha.

  101. AW Mens says:

    Sorry to hear that RD. Take care of your dad.
    Lots of prayers sent your way too LnL.

  102. Jim22 says:

    “Millions of sites hit with mass-injection cyberattack”

    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9215428/Millions_of_sites_hit_with_mass_injection_cyberattack

    Sorry to hear about your loss, RD. Take care of your dad.

  103. BaconNeggs says:

    RD I am sorry to hear about your family loss. I have only just started to read eariler post.

    All the best to you and yours.

  104. notamobster says:

    Just throwin this out there.

  105. R.D. Walker says:

    Nota gets promoted to executive officer!