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Unite the Right?

You are fucking doing it wrong assholes!

If this is the right, I want nothing to do with it.

You know, a significant part of the trouble in the world today is caused by 25 year old boys who can't get laid.   Take for instance the Tiki Teutons here.  If ever there was a more obvious group of adult virgins struggling with guilt over their compulsive masturbation obsession, I haven't seen it.

Obama and his minions stoked the racial pot relentlessly.  They and their followers were the most racist administration in recent history, meaning my lifetime.  But, with the government on their side, what they were doing was never called racism.  I believe that situation was a deliberate, methodic sharp stick in the eye of the right.

I think what we are seeing right now from the alt-right - this disgusting display of racism and Nazi flags -  is a backlash that Obama actually wanted to occur.  I think he wanted it to occur while he was still president.  These idiots are playing right into the hands of the left.  They - the left - are probably giddy over these new developments.

Ted Cruz

Hear, hear!

It’s tragic and heartbreaking to see hatred and racism once again mar our great Nation with bloodshed. Heidi’s and my prayers are with the loved ones of those killed and injured in the ongoing violence in Charlottesville. The First Amendment protects the rights of all Americans to speak their minds peaceably, but violence, brutality, and murder have no place in a civilized society.

The Nazis, the KKK, and white supremacists are repulsive and evil, and all of us have a moral obligation to speak out against the lies, bigotry, anti-Semitism, and hatred that they propagate. Having watched the horrifying video of the car deliberately crashing into a crowd of protesters, I urge the Department of Justice to immediately investigate and prosecute this grotesque act of domestic terrorism.

These bigots want to tear our country apart, but they will fail. America is far better than this. Our Nation was built on fundamental truths, none more central than the proposition “that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

Quote from C. L. on August 13, 2017, 8:38 am

I think what we are seeing right now from the alt-right - this disgusting display of racism and Nazi flags -  is a backlash that Obama actually wanted to occur.

I gotta tell you Chuck, I don't think that is relevant.  Nobody goes Nazi torchlight because of the president.  You go all Nazi because your soul has the qualities of a filthy, stinking asshole.

I don't know.  A person could have that ugly kind of soul and manage to keep control of it in outward appearance, but 8 years of being egged on by a racist president with a racist administration could make that come out into the open.  I think that was intentional.

I am not defending these racist right-wing jerks.  I'm just saying they were poked repeatedly for many years.  Also, on the other side of the coin, the racist leftists were also stoked up by the same president until many of them, too, descended into violence, even seeing it as justified.

Neither of them is right, of course.  Some people have these tendencies but most don't.  It is wrong for anyone, left or right, to stoke those tendencies.

We've watched while antifa and the alt-right have continually upped the stakes in their ongoing clashes. First, it was harsh words, then fists, then stones, then pepper spray and bike locks. We've seen dynamite confiscated from antifa. On the other side, we've seen all manner of blunt objects and "incidental" weapons and now a car used as a weapon. I suspect this isn't the end, but just the beginning.

Both groups are a bunch of ignorant assholes. People with reasonable policy positions don't resort to this kind of behavior; they don't need to shout in order to be heard. When you see somebody throwing a tantrum like a poorly-behaved child, their policy point is probably also on a 2-year old's level. Black Lives Matter terrorists were a detriment to the political left. Alt-right will conversely be a liability to anybody on the entire political right, even those who denounce the alt-right's particular strain of ignorance.

I am a Southerner, a true Florida Cracker to be exact. Members of my family fought for the State of Florida in the cause of the Confederacy. I had absolutely no control over who my ancestors were chosen to be. It wasn't my call. Nonetheless I am proud of my Heritage and the things my family has done in their attempt to make the world a better place.

Here are the things in life that I was actually given a choice in, as it pertains to who I am and who I will forever be...

I am an All American Combat Veteran of the 82nd Airborne Division. As it was in the beginning 100 Years ago this past August 5th, I served alongside ALL Americans. As it has been throughout our existence, I went to War as part of the effort to extinguish the greatest Evil of our day. I did my best to live up to the high standards that were set by the men who killed the Nazi War Machine. They are my Heroes, as are many others who have served our military to extinguish the greatest Evil of our day. I will never stand with anyone who flies the colors of our ancient enemy. The colors and ideology that was embraced by the Nazis follows a form of Evil that has existed on this Earth from the very beginning. It's practitioners are the children of Lucifer. I cannot stand with them and I never will.

The second thing that I was given a choice over that pertains to who I am and who I will forever be was whether or not to accept the Salvation offered through the Gospel and Sacrifice of my Lord, Jesus Christ. Because I am a Christian I will share the Love of God with people whose lives on this Earth are like a vapor but who were brought into this world by our Creator who loves them the same as he loves me. If I fail to reach them or turn them away from God's Love because I chose to call myself a Christian as I chose to follow a course of action that is outside of loving the Lord God with all of my being and loving my neighbors as myself, it will not escape God's attention.

Okay, one final thing...

I choose to promote Professional Wrestling because it brings ALL KINDS of people together at the same place and at the same time, to enjoy each other's company as they interact with a live show that has entertained people in this Country since before we were a Country. My show provides the ultimate in family friendly entertainment because bringing families together in an environment where they can relax, have a great time laughing and screaming and being amazed, those moments are priceless and they give kids happy memories that never die. It just so happens that my shows will give Glory to God in whatever venue we perform in and the formula is simple. We take the Love of God that was given to us and we share it freely with others. It just so happens that we do it in a highly entertaining way. We are to be Salt and Light to the world. God gives us those opportunities every day.

Now in the course of my show I will have family members "From the former Soviet Union, the Fighting Semenovs" entering the ring to the heavy metal version of the Soviet National Anthem (ala Nikolai Volkoff) wearing red T-Shirts with a Gold Star with Hammer and Sickle on them. Everyone knows my eternal hatred of Communism. That won't make me evil by putting them in the ring this way, it will simply represent how the love of a Pro Wrestling family can bring all kinds of people together to have a good time. Stay tuned to this very website for the worldwide Pro Wrestling Debut of Knockout Nikolai, Victorious Vitali, Awesome Alexei and Oligarch Oleg, the Fighting Semenovs.

I remember around a year ago.  A few smooth-talking alt-right commenters showed up on the blog.  A couple of them were very good talkers. RD, you had them pegged way back then.  I remember reading some of their comments and not seeing the underlying ugliness there, but you saw through it every time and called them on it hard. I am glad I was around here for that.  It helped me.

Still, sometimes it sucks to be right, doesn't it?

Quote from C. L. on August 13, 2017, 10:12 am

8 years of being egged on by a racist president with a racist administration could make that come out into the open.

Yes, I suppose that is true.

I am confident that the racist alt-right swine noticed and took comfort in the fact that Trump - a president who is willing to brutally attack anyone he dislikes - made comments in which calling out white supremacists specifically was noticeably absent.

The Nazi swine were up to bat yesterday and, the response from the POTUS wasn't a hit but it wasn't a strike either.  It was a ball.

Don't for a minute believe that they didn't notice that Trump didn't call them out and don't for a minute think that they don't see that as tacit support.

If this topic is only about the right-wing assholes being total assholes, that's okay.  If it is about the violence that happened at the protest, then is should also be mentioned that there were numerous instances of violence coming from antifa and BLM activists there.  I saw pictures of leftists using weapons, including fire, against people just standing holding flags.  I read in one story that right wing protestors had to wade through a gauntlet of antifa and BLM violence three city blocks thick just to get to the protest area - people who were there specifically to shut down the free speech of the right wingers..  A female reporter was punched in the face by an antifa protestor.  The media, of course, is completely ignoring the leftist violence that occurred.

Trump has now clarified that of course he meant white supremecists were included in his condemnation of the violence.  The media latched onto the fact that he condemned all of the violence, not just the right wing stuff.  Somehow, that was bad.

This really pisses me off.  We have a clear case of low IQ, violent assholes on both sides of this issue doing bad things, and the media only reports it as a one-sided violent attack by the right wingers on the poor, misunderstood left-wingers.  Every. Fucking, Time.  This is what happens.

Trump had a chance to have a Sister Souljah Moment and he blew it.  He had a chance to disavow the alt-right assholes that support him.  Everybody knows he hates the leftist agitators who hate him.  That isn't news.  That is dog bites man shit.   His condemnation of those who hate his guts and want him impeached or even assassinated goes without saying.  It is implicit.  It is understood.  It is manifest.  That he condemns them is to state the obvious.

What would have been news would have been that he condemned his most radical alt-right supporters but he couldn't do that.   Nobody in his administration seemed to think this was an important moment.  This was a chance to separate from the scum in the septic tank of the Trump Train.  Nope.  Couldn't do it.

He can call out by name and attack the living shit out of nobodies like Mika Brzezinski, Kathy Griffin, Rosie O'Donnell and Megyn Kelly but God forbid he call out neo-Nazi shitstains by name.

Nope.  He dances around it.... and I guarantee they notice it and feel it is tacit support.

Yeah.  The media is going to make this out to be only right-wing violence and ignore the Antifa thugs. Of course it was the right wingers who instigated the thing.  It was the right wingers who killed on high definition video.  So, yeah, it is going to get a lot of attention.

If your supporters do something criminal, you condemn your supporters.  You DO NOT try to excuse them by saying the other side is doing the same thing.  Period.

Don't misunderstand me.  I think the Antifa thugs are every bit as bad as the alt-right thugs.  They were there, armed and spoiling for a fight.  They suck just as bad.

It isn't the Antifa assholes, however, that are going to smear their stinking shit all over American conservatism through supposed association.  That is the alt-right.

Antifa doesn't make conservatives look bad.  These guys do.  These are the people from whom we are forced to disassociate.   Trump should have done so.

"It isn't the Antifa assholes, however, that are going to smear their stinking shit all over American conservatism through supposed association.  That is the alt-right."

No argument from me on that.  And, I agree that Trump had a perfect moment to separate and distance himself from these asshole, specifically these assholes, and he blew it.

If the left wanted to completely discredit the right, what this stupid ass did with his car is the kind of thing the left should have been thinking about.  It plays into their hands so perfectly.  This idiot is doing more damage to the conservative cause than any antifa and BLM mob ever dreamed of.

All that, and the relentless media bearing down, too, lying through omission and every other form of lying they know so well.

I'm gonna go outside and build a camp fire and sit by it for awhile.  Peace.  Tranquility.  Need some.  🙂

As you know, I was recently in the Somme region of France visiting the area where the Hindenburg Line was broken during World War I.  I had a chance to talk to people who had ancestors that lived through the German occupation of 1914-1918.   It was the stuff of nightmares with Germans seizing their homes and their property, sending young men off to forced labor for the German war effort and summary executions.  I was made to feel sick to my stomach.

It made me reflect that it was in this timeframe that my great, great grandfather changed our family name from the German to the English version.  It made me reflect that at the time all my ancestors named Johan became John and all the Heinrichs became Henry.  They didn't want to be associated with Germany.

Yet World War II was much worse.  The atrocities of the Nazis made the Germans of World War I seem soft and gentle by comparison.  The Nazis were Satan's army on earth.

That anyone would want to even tangentially associated with that stain on history boggles the mind.  It really does.

If this situation doesn't spell the end for "alt-right Bannon", then he is indeed the anti-Christ.

Remember how we hated and commented over and over that Obama was unwilling to call radical Islamic violence "radical Islamic violence"?   Yeah, well this is radical alt-right violence and the POTUS is acting like Obama in not calling it by name.

Trump and Obama are the same kind of person, just slightly different agendas. They're vindictive, petty, arrogant children who seek to use the power of government to benefit their friends and punish their enemies. Neither one of them understands that being President is to be a steward of the nation, not a ruler or arbiter.

Can anyone imagine the screaming, hollering and gnashing of teeth that would occur had the Nazi loon used a firearm instead of an automobile to mow down th crowd.  Thank G-d apparently no shots were fired in spite of the arms many carried.

On that guy who viciously and coldheartedly rammed his car into counter-protestors.  A new version of what happened is starting to emerge despite the media's attempts to paint this as a white supremacist act of violence while ignoring the numerous acts of violence by leftists leading up to the car incident.

The other story is that the white supremacist guy (who remains a loser by association with racist assholes) was leaving the protest and his car was attacked with baseball bats by leftists.  He panicked, in fear for his life, and accelerated to try to get away and rammed a crowd of people in doing so.

Who do I believe?  No one on either side.  I hope someone has good video footage of whatever happened.

I want to see footage of what was happening before he accelerated. In that second video, people were understandably hitting the car, but what about before that?  Was there another crowd of counter protestors in the location where he came from?  In that first video, people running in the same direction as the car - from where he came from before the video starts -  show signs of being leftist protestors, namely, the girl in the "pussy" hat.

I just want to know.  I really want to know.

If you have a past of Nazi sympathy and white supremacism, you travel to another state to rabble rouse and pose with a shield ablaze with fascist symbolism and then crash your car into a crowd of counter protesters and make a run for it, your ass is in a bind regardless as to the reason you did it.  There will be no mitigating factors for this idiot nor should there be.  He is to blame.

Quote from R.D. Walker on August 14, 2017, 6:25 am

If you have a past of Nazi sympathy and white supremacism, you travel to another state to rabble rouse and pose with a shield ablaze with fascist symbolism and then crash your car into a crowd of counter protesters and make a run for it, your ass is in a bind regardless as to the reason you did it.  There will be no mitigating factors for this idiot.

Very good point.  It is so blatant that he was there to be a part of something ugly that I don't see why the media is still ignoring the violence from the lefties who came there for the same ugly reasons.  I believe in free speech, but I freely admit that I laughed my ass off when the Blues Brothers drove through the Nazis on the bridge.  It sure feels different when it happens in the real world.

There are fascists on both sides of this.  I hate what both of them stand for.  I was hoping there was enough incontrovertible video evidence to publicly and deeply and unequivocally stain both sides.

I like this (skip the first 70 seconds):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsZBVnFmsEs

That was pretty good cl. Is that guy on like that everyday? I have never heard of him but I don't watch tv other than hockey and kids shows.

I think Watters has his own show on Fox News now.  He used to have a regular 5 minute spot on O'Reilly.  I hardly ever watch TV either.  I saw the video linked on another website and went to youtube to get it.

People anywhere right of center absolutely, positively have stop crying that both sides are guilty.   We are at risk of being unfairly associated with the alt-right scum.  Every time we whine that both sides are guilty we sound like we are defending neo-Nazi shit stains.

Look, whenever a kid caught doing something wrong says, "well, those guys were doing it too" he is trying to excuse himself.  When conservatives of good conscience try to balance the scales between the alt-right and Antifa, they sound like apologists for the alt-right.

We who are right of center have no duty to condemn Antifa.  They are clearly our enemies and we have no fear of EVER being associated with them.  We do have a duty to condemn the alt-right and, if we fail in that duty, we are going to sound like we are giving them tacit support and we will, therefore, be associated with them.

That was Trump's mistake and it is a serious mistake.

I'm beginning to wonder if the Unite the Right rally wasn't a fake rally.  Some things are quite fishy as pointed out on other sites.

http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2017/08/13/was-unite-the-right-a-staged-media-event/#sthash.ZnM3sXaK.HhzQ06dA.dpbs

And right on cue, the 'black flag operation' speculation begins.   How in the hell could it be fake?  I mean in the real world?

"This smells of Soros, Hillary and Obama!"

I don't have time to fisk that site but I will quote Occam:  "Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem (Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity).

It has been reported that the driver of the car that ran into the crowd was a Democrat and a Hillary supporter.

Don't know if it's true or not. I lived in Charlottesville for decades. When I got there, I was just out of the Army and it was a cool place for young people. Watched it decline until I had to leave. The place is run by fruitcakes now.

 

It has also been reported that he had a history of white supremacy, Nazi sympathies and was a US Army Chapter 11 discharge.   There is a photo of him marching with white supremacists adorned with fascist symbols from earlier in the day.

You can see him at 1:36 in this video chanting  "Fags, go home, you have no testosterone."

Here is some shit from his Facebook page.

Draw your own conclusions.

Selective law enforcement has consequences none of them are good.

Though, I don’t see it happening, as a libertarian, I’m not sure that I care if conservatism gets stained by the alt-right.

It appears one faction of America has declared war against another. If I was a pol, I’d avoid saying much.  It’s hard to publicly condemn anything without offering explanations and solutions.  So what are they? Come together and all get along?

Quote from R.D. Walker on August 14, 2017, 8:10 am

People anywhere right of center absolutely, positively have stop crying that both sides are guilty.   We are at risk of being unfairly associated with the alt-right scum.  Every time we whine that both sides are guilty we sound like we are defending neo-Nazi shit stains.

Look, whenever a kid caught doing something wrong says, "well, those guys were doing it too" he is trying to excuse himself.  When conservatives of good conscience try to balance the scales between the alt-right and Antifa, they sound like apologists for the alt-right.

We who are right of center have no duty to condemn Antifa.  They are clearly our enemies and we have no fear of EVER being associated with them.  We do have a duty to condemn the alt-right and, if we fail in that duty, we are going to sound like we are giving them tacit support and we will, therefore, be associated with them.

That was Trump's mistake and it is a serious mistake.

but both sides are guilty. and im not on either one. i have no sympathy for either group. i think protesting is the laziest form of affecting change there in existence. if both groups could be vanquished at each others hand the country/world would be a better place.

a pox on both their houses.

Quote from fasttimes on August 14, 2017, 1:25 pm

but both sides are guilty. and im not on either one. i have no sympathy for either group. i think protesting is the laziest form of affecting change there in existence. if both groups could be vanquished at each others hand the country/world would be a better place.

That is 100 percent true.  You are a steady conservative, however, and the alt-right will pollute your philosophy by pretending they have association with you and as part of their "unite the right" billshit.

There is no chance that Antifa will ever corrupt your philosophy by their presence.  They consider you the enemy.

Conservatives of good faith must criticize and disavow the alt-right or risk being associated with it.

I noticed there isn't a lot of diversity amongst the white nationalists.  Somebody is bound to complain about this.

...and it only took him 36 hours of national arm twisting to do it.

Yea.  CNN has been saying the same thing for the most part as well.

If his instincts were those of a normal man in his position, he would have understood the need to call out neo-Nazis without the need for any arm twisting at all.

When did we find out who was driving the car?

Pretty quick, actually.

Here is a rule of thumb for Trump and all future presidents. When you are commenting on an event that includes swastikas, Confederate battle flags, white supremacist slogans and fascist imagery emblazoned on shields and banners, you call it out by name and you condemn it.  Period.  You don't equivocate.   You don't "yeah but" or "what about".  You just call it out and condemn it.

It isn't that complicated.

I agree with you in #46. What about movements/groups whose followers have killed cops? Should they be condemned by name?

Now the Washington Post is openly calling for violence Start Throwing Rocks

Quote from DLJ6 on August 15, 2017, 1:25 pm

I agree with you in #46. What about movements/groups whose followers have killed cops? Should they be condemned by name?

Hell yes.

The deal with Trump specifically, however, is one of his key advisors stated he wanted to be "the voice of the alt-right".    He really needs to call out the alt-right a hell of a lot more than he needs to call out Antifa.  Trump has the stench of the alt-right all over him.

He needed a Sister Souljah moment.  Seriously.

In United States politics, a Sister Souljah moment is a politician's public repudiation of an extremist person or group, statement, or position perceived to have some association with the politician or the politician's party.

It has been described as "a key moment when the candidate takes what at least appears to be a bold stand against certain extremes in their party" and as "a calculated denunciation of an extremist position or special interest group." Such an act of repudiation is designed to signal to centrist voters that the politician is not beholden to traditional, and sometimes unpopular, interest groups associated with the party, although such a repudiation runs the risk of alienating some of the politician's allies and the party's base voters. The term is named after the hip hop artist Sister Souljah.

I was just thinking.  The entire machine of the Democratic Party sent everything they had against Trump and he just brushed it off.  The media attacked him relentlessly, never giving him a moments respite, and it just rolled off.  The so-called deep state establishment government employees have undermined him every which way he turns, to no avail.  Long-time Republican lawmakers hate his guts and stand in his way on policy, and he somehow gets through it.

Then, along comes a Trump-adoring, sorry, dirty mob of redneck white supremacist bigots and alt-right shitbag losers yelling "Trump, YEAH!," while they publicly embarrass the living shit out of every decent conservative in the country, and manage to fuck everything up for him when no one else could.  The irony.

“Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.” ~George Santayana
“Those who remember the past are condemned to watch as everyone else repeats it.” ~RD Walker

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